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Hi Paul from another one and welcome to Ships Nostalgia.Hope you like going round the site and seeing everything.
Hope this of CARINTHIA is OK-from one of these Beken postcards you were able to buy at one time in any newsagent between Bournemouth and the Isle of Wight.
Remember her when she was new and saw her on the Clyde on the Canadian service.

Paul (Fairfield)
 

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Cunard quartet

FAIRWIND & FAIRLAND (Ex: SYLVANIA [57/20017] & CARINTHIA [56/21947]) laid up at Southampton after sale to Sitmar in 1968. CARMANIA & FRANCONIA laid up at Southampton in 1971.

FAIRWIND went on to become SITMAR FAIWIND, DAWN PRINCESS & finally ALBATROS.

FAIRLAND became FAIRSEA & FAIR PRINCESS.

CARMANIA [54/21637] was built as SAXONIA, renamed CARMANIA in 1963 she became LEONID SOBINOV in 1973.

FRANCONIA [55/21717] was built as IVERNIA, renamed FRANCONIA in 1963 she became FYODOR SHALYAPIN in 1973 with her name adjusted to FEDOR SHALYAPIN in 1992.
 

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Carinthia Pictures

Thanks everyone, for the Carinthia pictures. I am originally from Liverpool, England, and came over as a youngster to live in Canada. I came across in 1966 on the Carintia, and have been fascinated by her ever since. I hear she was laid up in HongKong as the 'China Sea Discovery", a floating casino, but she is the only one of the four Saxonia sisters still in existence. I recently read that she is on her way to Iraq, as a floating hotel for aid workers during the present conflict. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks again for the pictures.



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Paul said:
Thanks everyone, for the Carinthia pictures. I am originally from Liverpool, England, and came over as a youngster to live in Canada. I came across in 1966 on the Carintia, and have been fascinated by her ever since. I hear she was laid up in HongKong as the 'China Sea Discovery", a floating casino, but she is the only one of the four Saxonia sisters still in existence. I recently read that she is on her way to Iraq, as a floating hotel for aid workers during the present conflict. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks again for the pictures.



Paul
Hi Paul Just joined the merry band and was reading your letter. Great to hear you enjoyed your trip on the Carinthia. I came ashore in May 1965 from that ship I was in the Engineering Dept though only a junior engineer and had sailed on other ships it was the best,great memories.If I remember rightly reading an article in one of the shipping mags, she went on fire in Hong Kong and has had to be scrapped,I live on Merseyside so still take a great interest in all things to do with shipping.Sorry its been 12 months for this info
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Paul said:
Thanks everyone, for the Carinthia pictures. I am originally from Liverpool, England, and came over as a youngster to live in Canada. I came across in 1966 on the Carintia, and have been fascinated by her ever since. I hear she was laid up in HongKong as the 'China Sea Discovery", a floating casino, but she is the only one of the four Saxonia sisters still in existence. I recently read that she is on her way to Iraq, as a floating hotel for aid workers during the present conflict. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks again for the pictures.



Paul
Ahoy Paul,
Here the latest details about her:
http://www.ssmaritime.com/csdstory.htm
 

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david fitzpatrick said:
Hi Paul Just joined the merry band and was reading your letter. Great to hear you enjoyed your trip on the Carinthia. I came ashore in May 1965 from that ship I was in the Engineering Dept though only a junior engineer and had sailed on other ships it was the best,great memories.If I remember rightly reading an article in one of the shipping mags, she went on fire in Hong Kong and has had to be scrapped,I live on Merseyside so still take a great interest in all things to do with shipping.Sorry its been 12 months for this info
Dave Fitzpatrick
Hi Dave , I Joined the Carinthia a brand New ship in John Browns yard Glasgow on 10 June 1956 and I made 4 trips as a QM.
The 4 ships in this series were well built and I think far outlasted original expectations, sadly they were soon deposed by mass 707 jet travel, right ships at the wrong time.
Cheers Peter, Peggy747, (Thumb)
 

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Ihave an old postcard bought onboard the Carithia in th early 60's ill try andput it on the gallery as i'm new to this game and not at all sure of how to put the thumpnails in its (the photo) seems to have been taken from the hieghts a Quebec
 

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Queen Elizabeth "caught fire" in HK and burnt out, did not know another Cunarder had the same fate. Morale = do not travel to HK on a Cunarder
 

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Queen Elizabeth "caught fire" in HK and burnt out, did not know another Cunarder had the same fate. Morale = do not travel to HK on a Cunarder
undefinedunable to locate the article about the Carinthia going on fire in Hong Kong could have been a senior moment? the article I did find in a mag dated July 2001 the Carinthia was renamed The China Sea Discovery and used for overnight gambling cruises from H.K.no further info David Fitzpatrick
 

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Carinthia became Fair Princess then was sold as a gambling ship to a Hong Kong mob, they ran her down badly, even leaving the crew onboard without pay so they couldn't go home and lived off what food was still onboard. Eventually she was taken and beached at Alang, only to catch fire and several of the wrecking crew were burnt to death with nothing much left of them to recognise or identify. Apparently they had an torch lit in the engine room, burning through some pipes when she errupted in flames.
She was left for some months for an enquiry but I believe she is gone now.. sad end to another great Pommy Icon. Lofty
 

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ed carmania scapped 1999 ivernia renamed fraconia scrapped 2003 carinthia renamed fairland fairsea fairprincess chinasea discovey scrapped 2004 sylvania renamed fairwind dawnprincess albatros scrapped 2004
 

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Thanks everyone, for the Carinthia pictures. I am originally from Liverpool, England, and came over as a youngster to live in Canada. I came across in 1966 on the Carintia, and have been fascinated by her ever since. I hear she was laid up in HongKong as the 'China Sea Discovery", a floating casino, but she is the only one of the four Saxonia sisters still in existence. I recently read that she is on her way to Iraq, as a floating hotel for aid workers during the present conflict. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks again for the pictures.



Paul
Paul, Bit of a lapse in time here!! I was on the Carinthia from1965 to 1968 working in the bakehouse so there is a very good chance you,ve tasted some of my handy work, trust there isn,t any lasting effects. To the best of my knowledge she was finally broken/up in a place called Alang in November 2005.
Alan ex Cunarder
 

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I,m trying to find out if anyone knows or sailed with a confectioner who was on the Carinthia in 1966/8. He was affectionately called "Treacle tart Lill" alias Alan Hudson. It would be great to know he,s still about, possibly making treacle tarts!!!!
 

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Did any of you ex Carinthia engineers know Ron Bradley? we where good friends in those days and would love to know if he is still around , he lived in Liverpool also. the last time i saw him he was joining the queens ship in Southampton in1963 i left the Carinthia in 62.
 

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The second Cunard ship to be burnt out in Hong Kong was the Media. Sold in 1961 she was rebuilt as Flavia for the Australian immigrant trade and later adapted for cruising. In 1982 she was renamed Flavian and in 1986 Lavia. In January 1989, while being refitted at Hong Kong, she caught fire and as a result was sold to Kaohsiung breakers.
 
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