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What has happened to the Scottish Navy? Your contributions pale into insignificance compared to Brocklebanks for instance, yet you had many more ships.

I seem to remember an old saying that went something like:-
"The Officers (and Gentlemen) of P&O,
The Men of B.I
And those Bastards in Clan Line"
 

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i agree, there must be somebody out there that can share a picture or story from the scottish navy. a while ago i posted a photo of a fire on the balmoral Universal (ex Clan) surely there are old photos that we could share or even extracts from the Clansman (I still have one or two of these kicking about)
 

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Clan Boats Photos

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i agree, there must be somebody out there that can share a picture or story from the scottish navy. a while ago i posted a photo of a fire on the balmoral Universal (ex Clan) surely there are old photos that we could share or even extracts from the Clansman (I still have one or two of these kicking about)
Recently I was given over 400 postcards of British cargo ships of the 50's and 60's, a shoe box full in fact!!! Amongst them were 16 photos of Clan Boats. You are welcome to down load them if you like. Regards Tony.
http://www.rhiw.com/y_mor/ships_photos_03/clan_line/clan_01.htm (Thumb)
 

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Recently I was given over 400 postcards of British cargo ships of the 50's and 60's, a shoe box full in fact!!! Amongst them were 16 photos of Clan Boats. You are welcome to down load them if you like. Regards Tony.
http://www.rhiw.com/y_mor/ships_photos_03/clan_line/clan_01.htm (Thumb)
Ahoy Tony,
Thanks for these lovely piccies, you lucky b*******d(Thumb) I'm waiting for the
day I will find such a shoe box(*))

Note: Btw, a fine site you have(Applause)
 

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Japanese Ships !!!

Yes I was a very lucky chappie, amongst them are about 12 Japanese cargo boats, they are the only ones that are not on line. The shoe box came from a retired school master, he had a project with his pupils, and wrote to several companies, and the shoe box was the result. But listen to this!!! he orginally had over 2,000 postcards, and he reckons the rest could still be in his loft, and I'm just keeping my fingers crossed on that one!!! Regards Tony (*))
 

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Thanks for that Tony, I'll be adding them to my files. Back to the original point, I have despaired how all the Clan Line men (in fact B&C group from my time) seem to have disappeared into the ether. I am trying to put together something for Paul Wood's training ships site (www.rakaia.co.uk) about the Clan Line training ships but there is little to find on the net for such a big outfit.
 

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Thank you for your kind offer to down load Clan pics Tony. I also have ten Different to yours. You are all welcome to down load them. Mactavish. Davidson. Buchanan. Maclennan. Maclaren. Maclachlan. Lamont. Maclean. ***ming. Shaw. If you want any let me know. If you want them all let me know and I will up-load two each day.
All the best. Barney.
 

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Yes I was a very lucky chappie, amongst them are about 12 Japanese cargo boats, they are the only ones that are not on line. The shoe box came from a retired school master, he had a project with his pupils, and wrote to several companies, and the shoe box was the result. But listen to this!!! he orginally had over 2,000 postcards, and he reckons the rest could still be in his loft, and I'm just keeping my fingers crossed on that one!!! Regards Tony (*))
Ahoy Tony,
Where does that retired teacher lives?(Fly)
No, just joking,I know you like to share these as well, and we all hope that one day you will get these 2000 as well.
 

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WEnt to Clan line for a job once, said " I want a 3rds job" Any tickets "no"
sorry no ticket no job. But I have just met one of your 3rds with no ticket (mentioned ship and name) Oh yes I know him but he has been with us for 25 years and we have rewarded him with a 3rds job. He had been a third for 22 years. Reckon he should have been in the Guiness book of records.
 

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WEnt to Clan line for a job once, said " I want a 3rds job" Any tickets "no"
sorry no ticket no job. But I have just met one of your 3rds with no ticket (mentioned ship and name) Oh yes I know him but he has been with us for 25 years and we have rewarded him with a 3rds job. He had been a third for 22 years. Reckon he should have been in the Guiness book of records.

Hence the term "Professional Third" - Many were invaluable to the company being a wealth of experience just never had the drive or academic ability to go for their tickets. On the other hand could be frustrating as they often graduated to the better ships and it could be dead man's shoes for ambitious 4/Es.
I don't know whether true or not but I heard once that in Blue Flue if no ticket by 26 years of age then you could be asked to leave to make way for others.
 

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clan line professional thirds/junior 2nd engineers

i agree these guys were very good,i remember peter hollingsworth a rough tough geordie ,he had immaculte manicured nails but still managed to get really stuck in when things went wrong.I feel these guys were invaluable in that they were happy to stay at their rank because they did not have a ticket ,most of them were only too happy to impart their knowledge to any keen cadet or junior engineer.There was not much they did not know,a certificate of competancy does not mean that the holder is a better engineer,we are all differant some of us have ambitions to get to the top asap,others are happy to get to a certain level and carry on stress free.
 

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I don`t understand why there are so few postings from ex-Clan crew members.I have contacted ship mates on other sites often more by chance than good judgement.I sailed on the Ranald twice,Sutherland,Menzies and Malcolm working on many others too many to remember whilst in Birkenhead,London or Tilbury Docks.I found them a good outfit and only left them for promotion.
 

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Started in '71 but didn't join my first ship until 1973. Clan Alpine in Avonmouth. Paid off in Glasgow and joined Clan Macgillivray, in Antwerp, the next day. Trips on Clan Ranald, Clan Macinnes and King Charles finished off the sea phase of my cadetship.Up to 3/E before it all went t*ts up and ended up on foreign flag reefers. Those few years with the Clan Line were the best I've ever had at sea - didn't want to come home half the time - shame it's not the same now!!
 

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Perhaps I should add my bit rather than silently watching in the background.

September 1973:
SA Oranje - 4th R/O, 2 trips and hated it.
Edinburgh Castle - 1.5 trips and things getting better mainly due to C/R/O John Walker (by name and tipple)
SA Vaal - 3/R/O, half a trip.
Clan Maclean - 3 trips
Clan Macintosh - 2 trips
King Richard
Everett F Wells - 3 trips
Clan Macgillivray
Sunnyway
King Charles
King Alfred
Mistral Universal
Kawkab 1

with a few coastals in between, then shifted to Cayzer's offshore section, Neptune Shipping -

December 1983:
Scirocco Universal
Al Zohal
Al Moshtaree
Al Zahrah
Al Zohal

December 1987.


Looking back I'm sure it's easy to forget the 'fed up' parts but there was a lot of good times in there, especially the last few years on the reefers.
 

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Perhaps I should add my bit rather than silently watching in the background.

Edinburgh Castle - 1.5 trips and things getting better mainly due to C/R/O John Walker (by name and tipple) .....
When was this then Robert ? I was on her between Sept - Dec 1973

(Seems such a long time ago !)
 

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After the cadetship it was:
Clan Maclay 75 - 76 J/E
Clan Maclean 76 J/E
King James 76 J/E
Clan Macgillivray 77 J/E & 4/E
Kinpurnie Castle 78 - 79 4/E
Clan Macnab 79 4/E
Clan Graham 80 4/E
King Charles 81 3/E
Balmoral Universal 3/E
Al Mareekh 3/E

Transfer to Neptune
Al Moshtaree 83 - 84 2/E
Scirocco Universal 84 2/E
Caspian Universal 85 2/E
Al Attared 85 - 86 2/E
Mistral 86 2/E
Speedster Universal 87 2/E
Al Zohal 88 - 89 2/E promoted C/E 11/88
Al Attared 89 C/E
Al Zahrah 90 C/E

You are right Bob, there were plenty of good times in amongst that lot - not least when you were involved!!
 
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