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Hello Bob,
You are a bit out with your dating.ASN - Atlantic Steam Navigation Co were taken over by Townsend - Thoreson in 1971 and in 1987,P&O European Ferries became the owners..
I was in EMPIRE BALTIC for two periods during early 1950s -total 4 1/2 years on Tilbury - Antwerp - Hamburg service..Stan.
 

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EMPIRE MOONBEAM official number 172784 was built in Kowloon, Hong Kong in 1941 for the Ministry of War Transport (MOWT).

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Empire Moonbeam

As a postscipt, I discovered on the net (and I assume to copyright belongs to Uboat.net) :

At 01.05 hours on 12 Sep, 1942, U-211 (Hause) attacked the convoy ON-127 southwest of Cape Clear and damaged the Hektoria with two torpedoes and the Empire Moonbeam with one. Both vessels were later sunk by coups de grâce by U-608.
The Empire Moonbeam (Master William George Stewart Hewison) was sunk by U-608 at 04.59 hours on 12 September. Three crew members were lost. The master, 44 crew members, six gunners and one passenger were picked up by HMCS Arvida (K 113) (Lt A.I. MacKay, RCNR) and landed at St. Johns on 15 September.
 

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From my unpublished book "Ropner's Navy"

EMPIRE MOONBEAM, 6,849grt, built 1941 (Hong Kong, & Whampoa Dock Co. Ltd) for the MOWT, managed by Ropner Shipping Co. Ltd.

Empire Moonbeam was involved in a bizarre incident while crossing the North Atlantic. Empire Moonbeam had left Sydney, Cape Breton in the thirty-six ship Liverpool bound Convoy SC-94 on the 31st July 1942, which was accompanied by six naval escorts. On the 5th August part of the convoy is sighted by U-593 consisting of six ships and two escorts which have romped away from the main convoy because of fog. The U-593 attacks and manages to sink a small Dutch steamer before being chased off by the escorts. A total of seventeen U-boats now descend upon the convoy and on the 8th August all hell breaks loose. In less than two hours five merchantmen had been sent to the bottom in two separate attacks. In the second attack three ships were simultaneously hit and is possibly what caused the following incident. Three ships which had not been hit suddenly began to be abandoned by their crew in the sheer terror and confusion going on around them, one of the ships being abandoned was Empire Moonbeam. After sometime two of the ships including Empire Moonbeam’s crew were persuaded to re-board their vessels, unfortunately not before the sea had taken seven of her crew to a watery grave. The attack was eventually called off on the 10th August with eleven ships sunk and a further two damaged, with the convoy reaching port three days later. One explanation given by the Second Officer of another ship in the convoy who was on watch at the time may explain what caused the men to abandon ship. At the time he recalls his own ship being hit by a resounding thump causing the ship to heave over. Believing his own ship had been torpedoed (of which he had previous experience), he was surprised to see after inspection the ship had not been hit, but the crew also believing they had been torpedoed were preparing to release their own lifeboats and were subsequently ordered to secure the boats. It is believed that what all the ships may have felt had been caused by a huge underwater explosion from one of the munitions ships cargoes which had been already been torpedoed, exploding under water. The Empire Moonbeam was lost on her very next voyage just over a month after the above incident. Torpedoed and damaged by U-211, later sunk by U-608 on the 11th September 1942 in Convoy ON-127 sailing from Glasgow to New York in ballast, carrying 1 passenger. 3 crew killed. Captain, 44 crew, 6 DEMS gunners and passenger were picked up by the corvette RCN ARVIDA and landed at St. John’s, Newfoundland on the 15th September.

ATKINS, Chief Cook, WILLIAM JOHN THOMPSON, S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 8th August 1942. Age 36. Son of George and Elizebeth Atkins; husband of Ida Atkins, of North Shields, Northumberland.

BRICE, Fireman and Trimmer, JOHN HENRY, S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 8th August 1942. Age 39. Son of John and Ellen Phoebe Brice.

CUSHNAHAN, Able Seaman, THOMAS, S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 8th August 1942. Age 28. Son of Joseph and Elizabeth Cushnahan, of Portglenone, Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland; husband of Annie Cushnahan, of Lurgan, Co. Armagh, Northern Ireland.

DWYER, Fireman and Trimmer, T, S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 8th August 1942. Age 27.

ELSON, Carpenter, WILFRED JOHN, S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 8th August 1942. Age 20. Husband of Frances Elizabeth Elson, of Chester.

GRAHAM, Fireman and Trimmer, ROBERT SLOAN, S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 11th September 1942. Age 20. Son of Elizabeth Robertson, of Stevenston, Ayrshire.

HUGHES, Fireman and Trimmer, THOMAS, S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 8th August 1942. Age 40.

JENKINS, Fourth Engineer Officer, EDWARD B., S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 8th August 1942. Age 21. Son of Winifred Jenkins, of Porth, Glamorgan.

MacLEOD, Fireman and Trimmer, ALEXANDER MURDO, S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 11th September 1942. Age 42. Son of Murdo and Christina Murray MacLeod.

RUTHERFORD, Fireman and Trimmer, JAMES, S.S. Empire Moonbeam (Hong Kong). Merchant Navy. 11th September 1942. Age 34.
 

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Terence Williams, ex Elect Engr, Shaw Savill, ex Wales since Australia.

Hello there,

During 1951 I did a voyage on " Wairangi ", which I under stand was earlier named Empire Grace?. Terence Williams.
 

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Any information on who ran the Empire Peacemaker?

Understand she was a rescue ship during the war, but I did a short voyage on her in 52, when we had to be transported back to Malta, I believe she was run by the Army.
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Were all the 'Empire' ships only built in GB? Whereas Forts & Parks were from Canadian & US yards?
No, many of the early EMPIREs were second hand vessels purchased / acquired from wherever to fill an immediate requirement whilst new building programmes were put in place.

The EMPIRE SHIPS story is well do***ented together with all the vessels in a book of that title by Sawyer & Mitchell
 

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Empire Boats

Very interesting thread.

I thought Empire boats were built in the yards of the British Empire in Canada, Hong Kong , India etc.during the war. I wonder where I got that from. Must have been listening to a bottle of "Four Bells".

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No, many of the early EMPIREs were second hand vessels purchased / acquired from wherever to fill an immediate requirement whilst new building programmes were put in place.

"The EMPIRE SHIPS story is well do***ented together with all the vessels in a book of that title by Sawyer & Mitchell".

The book referred to here is:- Empire Ships of World War 2, by W.H.Mitchell & L.A. Sawyer, was published in 1965 by The Journal of Commerce & Shipping Telegraph Ltd. My copy cost 25/-
ABE Books lists 20 copies world wide at prices ranging from the cheapest in a Norwich book shop at £20, to one in the U.S.A. costing £108.
 
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