Interesting considering they were mainly 'On Contract' from another Company.The Wireless Operator... was the first on a 'Crew List' that became 'OFFICER'. There were Bosun, AB, OS, JOS, Fireman, Wiper, Cook, Steward, Engineer, Mates, Master but the first 'officer' was the Wireless Officer or Radio Officer. Well, that is the story that I was told years ago.
Interesting considering they were mainly 'On Contract' from another Company.
Entertaining it certainly is Bob.
Well, if some came from the Cunard and might be called a 'Chief Officer' might find himself as simply 'Mate'.
Even in my Dis. A... I have ranks noted as Third Officer and Third Mate (3/O) same for 2nd Mate or 2nd Officer. None as Mate... the rest say Ch. Off.
I was putting details in Dis. A for the crew... just eight of us on a tug. The Mate was Dan Robinson. His whole book was Fourth Officer, Third Officer, Junior Second, Senior Second, Junior First, Senior First and Chief Officer. For ship... all the same QUEEN ELIZABETH 2. When I came to fill his details I wrote 'ROYAL M', 489 grt, Valetta, FGN, Dartmouth to Piraeus. Under rank I write, Staff Captain' . He told he there were a few raised eyebrows when he went back to QE2!
Lots of them. Lots.
Passenger ships use the term.
It is not the Chief Officer as we usually call today. The Chief Officer is now the 'Safety Officer'. The next is the Staff Captain and next to Captain. Some ships call it Deputy Captain. They also use the term Staff Chief Engineer. I even hear names like 'Chief Technical Officer'.
Some of them use pale blue between the gold on their cuffs and call it 'Environmental Officer' ( Sewage Engineer).
I loose track of it! In some ships they used to post a groups of photos for all of the officers, just for the passengers can recognise the captain and seniors. Now these days that don't post the photos... a security risk!!!! Oh well.
I hear that. I went to sea to make a living, and (corny as it may sound) a bit of adventure. I just didn't fancy a life in the factories of my home town, of which there were many in those days, now all gone.Bob,
I always wanted to sail in a passenger ship and have a book that says 'Senior Bar Tender'!!!!! The money is better than braid. ;-)
I hear that. I went to sea to make a living, and (corny as it may sound) a bit of adventure. I just didn't fancy a life in the factories of my home town, of which there were many in those days, now all gone.
It must have worked because I stuck it for 21 years before the collapse came.
Cannot agree with the above. without doubt the most undervalued person on board a British ship is/was the Peggy.B\)I have always held the belief that the most undervalued and underrated person on board any British ship was the Bosun. He always seemed to me the one man one could rely on to make things happen. Never quite understood the importance of Carpenter and why he appeared above the Bosun on the crew list. Tradesman argument does not wash. Perhaps this new rating of CPO which which is assumed by the Bosun is someway towards the mans recognition.
Got to agree with that John. Undervalued? I got £3/6/8 per week for working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, plus loads of verbal abuse, and the occasional smack round the earhole.(Sad)Cannot agree with the above. without doubt the most undervalued person on board a British ship is/was the Peggy.B\)
No saloon or mess room dining for him!