I'd forgotten about the cast of thousands that they have on navy ships. How come the whole lot of them weren't in the cart? You'd think at least one of them would have said: "Ahem, there's a fishing boat out here." The idea of a board meeting to discuss a change of course is interesting too."There is always that to consider John, as I alluded in #5.
One can wonder at what point the bridge team noticed a problem looming, how long did they wait until mentioning it, timing might have been the key.
Until someone writes their memoirs we will never know what the 'team' relationship might have been.
Usually at least two officers on watch on the bridge after sundown. Funny, I would have thought that after the RN gave up their liquior allotments they could afford more watch officers. Well anyway they still have seamen (almost forgot) sailors.😜A Royal Navy officer has been fined £4,000 after a warship narrowly avoided crashing into a fishing boat.
Lt Rebecca Stanley, 31, admitted to negligently hazarding a ship while aboard Plymouth-based HMS Sutherland in the North Sea on 5 June last year.
Bulford Court in Wiltshire heard how Lt Stanley had shut the blackout curtains to complete other work while in charge of the ship's look-out.
Assistant Judge Alan Large told her she would be "severely reprimanded".
Lt Stanley was supposed to be in charge of the ship's lookout between 01:00 and 04:00 BST during her night-shift.
Instead she decided to prepare for a manoeuvre she had no experience of, away from her duties.
The court heard how Lt Stanley told a colleague that if anyone asked "she wasn't behind the curtain".
'Wrong and foolish'
At the time the frigate was being operated by an officer who could not keep a visual look out and had "an extremely limited picture" of where other vessels were, the court was told.
As a result, the 4,000 tonne warship came within just 600 yards (548 metres) of a 118ft (36 metre) long Dutch fishing boat, which had to change direction at the last minute.
Prosecuting, Lt Solomon Hartley told the court: "She thought she had it all under control.
"She didn't have things under control and had things turned out differently she could have collided with the Jan Cornelis."
Defending, Commander Kay Chadwick said Stanley had not been "sleeping or using her phone".
Lt Stanley told the court: : "It was wrong and foolish of me to put the ship in that situation… I let myself and the ship's company down".
"Words cannot justify how sorry I am for the damage I almost caused."
How many people on the bridge at night? Two? Five? Ten? Only OOW? Where were the lookouts, radar people, juniors etc?
That could be squared away in no time if the USN would break out the rum tots and the Royal Navy sober up. Down the hatch!A Royal Navy warship nearly crashed into a fishing boat - after the officer on look-out closed the curtains and couldn't see where she was going.
Lieutenant Rebecca Stanley shut a ‘blackout curtain’ so she could get on with other work during the night shift ( perhaps a bit of dhobying and ironing) on type 23 frigate HMS Sutherland, a court martial heard.
Lt Stanley even told a surprised colleague on the ship’s bridge that if anyone asked ‘she wasn't behind the curtain’.
The court heard that as she couldn't see outside, the frigate was being operated by an officer who could not keep a visual look out and had ‘an extremely limited picture’ of where other vessels were . And they want equality, well rig the grating and break out the 'Cat o' Nine Tails'.
Its becoming too much like the USN.
Sorry John, I could not. It was forty-odd years ago, and nowadays I have trouble remembering what I had for breakfast. I just recall the other vessel as being much closer than I had seen one before while full away on passage. I'm quite sure that there was no whistle signal from our vessel though, or everybody would have been out of bed. Reflecting on the incident though, she was built in 73-74 and very well equipped, so would she have had some sort of helm movement recorder on the bridge? We certainly had full alarm printout in the ER. The thing that I remember most is that nobody seemed to want to talk about it, which made me suspect that we might have been partly in the wrong. I'll never know now, that's for sure.Steve , can you remember which side was the other ship on when you saw it ?.
A good question. I haven't been thinking about it for 13 days , though, just haven' t been online. I think it is quite possible that the main circ did start up, (no chance now of remembering the full details), but the dip in the vacuum was enough to trip. As I said before , what I remember most clearly is that no one topsides seemed to want to talk about the evasive action.My turn to be the anorak.
Why did the main circ not cut in automatically when the scoop flow fell too low (requirement for UMS steamer, surely). I would almost have expected a blackout due insufficient spinning reserve rather than an almost graceful failure (or turned graceful by your intervention).