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There has recently been protests about British & French fishing rights. Fishing boats have been reported ramming each other

Obviously, in French territorial waters, the French have free reign to fish; likewise, in British territorial waters, the British have free reign to fish

The issue has been about scallops

French & British fishermen have been reported as fishing in the others territorial waters

So is it the case countries are only allowed to fish in their respective territorial waters?

I'm assuming, that past the territorial waters limit (five miles believe?) is a free for all

I wonder how fishermen on SN feel about the situation?

I'm surprised no one else has posted on SN about this issue
 

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Legally the French have a moratorium on Summer fishing for scallops for stock preservation.....this does not apply to UK 'dredgers'. However, we only take about 4% of yield,the French have the balance,
Meetings in Paris tomorrow.

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Just watched on the news. Regardless of who is in the right. The French response of ramming British vessels is abhorrent and a disgrace . there can be no justification for it. The French navy stood by and watched ! Lets send in our navy to protect our fishermen !
 

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The more I watch. the more I get annoyed ! The British fishermen were there Legally. The French actions using larger boats to ram the smaller British boats is attempted murder in my book ! So the French skipper should be arrested for it ! and the skipper of the French navy boat, should also be arrested for aiding and abetting this ! What happened to the sanctity of life at sea ? does this not apply to the French ? I welcome any response from our French members !
 

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This is a re-run of what was going on in the 1980's between French and British crab fishermen. Boats were regularly returning to Dartmouth and Brixham with broken wheelhouse windows.
 

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On the BBC news at 6pm the large blue fishing boat ramming a small French boat had a PD registration, is this not Peterhead?
 

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On the BBC news at 6pm the large blue fishing boat ramming a small French boat had a PD registration, is this not Peterhead?

It certainly is and it's a well known Scottish boat.
British Fishermen are fishing in these waters year round with larger boats than the French are using and with reasonable impunity. To preserve stocks the French have been using smaller boats for some years and only fish from October to March.
Hence how they're a tad upset at something that's been going on for some time.
 

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Lets send in our navy to protect our fishermen !
Oh, if only we had one! Currently what trained sailors we have are fully occupied over in the USA, learning how to land American jet aircraft on a white elephant.
 

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Well at the end of the day, I don't care which nationality it is ! My recognition of ports of registration is poor, being an engineer ! So whoever and wherever that blue boat comes from. the skipper should be prosecuted. I still believe in the fraternity of the sea !
 

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Another beef the French have with the British boats is their dredging for the clams; claiming it destroys seabed life.
 

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Many years ago, some French scallopers put into Torquay in bad weather. They had been fishing in Lyme Bay, and their home port was Camaret, near Brest. I tried asking some questions in my schoolboy quality French and was invited on board by one of the skippers. He showed me the chart of Lyme Bay he was using, and indicted two lines drawn on it in different colours. One was the limit then in force, it may have been 12 miles from shore. Another parallel line in a different colour was drawn inside it. He told me that it was as far inside our limit that he could safely fish, giving him enough time to get outside the limit if he spotted the Fishery patrol boat. He also showed me the main scallop beds that he used. A few years later, the local Brixham fleet started dredging queen scallops from those same areas, having found a market for them with a Scottish merchant, name of Unkels I think. After several weeks of good landings, some Scottish registered boats suddenly appeared in Brixham, all of a very similar design. I remember them because they were all powered by GM Detroit diesels with their unique noise. One night, they cleaned out all the best beds in Lyme Bay, leaving nothing for the local fleet.
 

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The British boats were fishing legally, outwith the 12 mile restricted zone. The French boats surrounded them and tried to force them away in what was an obviously planned operation. Their actions were dangerous and it was only by good luck that no one was hurt or even worse.
The quotas are normally agreed by the fishermen, but the French refused to attend the meeting last year. The present agreement allows the British boats to catch about 1,000 tonnes, as compared to the French 17,000 tonnes. The British fishermen also agreed to limit the number and size of boats which could trawl in that area.
The French fishermen have a genuine grievance which should be addressed with their own government, or even the EU. Dredging for scallops definitely destroys the seabed, making it unfit for breeding any sea life. We had the same problems with Belgian/Dutch beam trawlers ruining spawning grounds in Scottish waters. There needs to be a solution, but the French idea of taking the law into their own hands is not the answer. The less said about the inaction of the French navy the better.
 

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It will all get sorted out after Brexit when the scallops will move over to England.

Here's a tip - if there's no roe attached to the scallop, there's a good chance its stamped from a skate wing. Bon appetit.

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Ramming

On the BBC news at 6pm the large blue fishing boat ramming a small French boat had a PD registration, is this not Peterhead?
You are right there.I saw the large English boat
ram the smaller French boat so that English should
be prosecuted.
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You are right there.I saw the large English boat
ram the smaller French boat so that English should
be prosecuted.
Dave Williams
So you are one of two British trawlers surrounded by twenty plus French trawlers throwing rocks at you, pretty large rocks if they are breaking porthole glass (which they did), firing flares at you etc you are supposed to stop and say 'listen chaps be reasonable'. Photographs can show what you want them to show, who's to say that the French trawler didn't cut across the bow of the British trawler giving him little room to manouver. Not saying any of it is right by any party, just another aspect. Icelandic trawlers and gunboat used to sail across the bows of British trawlers in the 50's (my time) trying to make them slow down, so that the trawler would foul her own net wires, nothings new
 

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Well at the end of the day, I don't care which nationality it is ! My recognition of ports of registration is poor, being an engineer ! So whoever and wherever that blue boat comes from. the skipper should be prosecuted. I still believe in the fraternity of the sea !
I agree with you,but there appear to be people
who seem to think that this "ramming" is ok if
done by "ourside".
Dave Williams
 

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So you are one of two British trawlers surrounded by twenty plus French trawlers throwing rocks at you, pretty large rocks if they are breaking porthole glass (which they did), firing flares at you etc you are supposed to stop and say 'listen chaps be reasonable'. Photographs can show what you want them to show, who's to say that the French trawler didn't cut across the bow of the British trawler giving him little room to manouver. Not saying any of it is right by any party, just another aspect. Icelandic trawlers and gunboat used to sail across the bows of British trawlers in the 50's (my time) trying to make them slow down, so that the trawler would foul her own net wires, nothings new
Since when did two wrongs make a right !!!!!
 
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