[ronald ribbe]

Hello,
I am Ronald Ribbe, from Breskens, The Netherlands.
I found this topic on the Grimsby trawler history.
For my personal research, I am looking for some history on a small beam trawler which was build in 1963 my hometown and sold to Grimsby in 1967.
She was called "Vier Gebroeders" (Four Brothers) ARM-12, from Arnemuiden, The Netherlands. What I found already is her Grimsby name, which was "Birkdale" GY-1401. She was owned by Stenton Trawlers Ltd.
What I would like to know is what became of her... a source says she was lost at sea, but not for 100% certain...
I do have a photo of her, when she conducted her first sea-trails as "Vier Gebroeders" ARM-12
I hope someone can help me out.

With kindest regards,
Ronald Ribbe, Breskens NL
www.rorifocus.nl

 

[ronald ribbe]

Newbuild in progress at Padmos Shipyard in Stellendam Holland. A brand-new flyshoot-twinrig trawler called "Hendrika Jacoba" GY-127.
When delivered, she will replace the old "Hendrika Jacoba" GY-127, build in 1982 as a beam trawler.
The new trawler will be 25 x 8 meters and fitted with a ABC or Mitsubishi main engine.
Due to the Covid-19 crisis, her commissioning will be delayed, but she will be in service before the end of 2020.

 

[GSB]

Hi Steve,I have a photograph of the Tanana GY 349 lying hard aground on a island in the Westray Firth Orkney,the crew being saved by the Stronsay lifeboat,this happened in 1958.I cannot post the pic.because it is in a book that i have,you know the score with copy-rights.It is definatly the same boat as the funnel at the back of the superstructure stands out clear in the pic.
Wully.

I took the photo of the Tanana a few days after she went ashore on the Clumps, off the south end of Westray, Orkney, early in the morning of Sunday 05.10.1958.
If anyone wants details of the grounding or copies of my photos please contact me at - [email protected] .
GSB

 

[RoboRobo]

GY 263 Sea Lady (?)

I am trying to identify just when Sea Lady was GY 263; others with that Port Reg are Agile, Stella Canopus and Cradock but that was all before 1954(?); Sea Lady was a Belgian built vessel, Ostende 1948, became BM 10 Sea Lady in 1972. Headed for Grimsby after that date. Later history is (BA263) (PZ 582 ) (OB167) (PL 20), but I have as yet found no record of her under the reported subsequent name of Marlene Ellen. Any advice please, I have searched Penzance Registers 1970-1990 and Defra/Maaf lists 1996-2006. Best Wishes, Raymond
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Don't know if this was the same vessel but hope the info helps.

 

[Normo]

Hi everyone, here is a list of vessels I'm currently researching. So if anyone reading this has any information of any kind relating to these vessels (including pics), please let me know by posting here or by PM.

Regards

Clem

GY6 Ross Kelly
GY19 Stockham
GY22 Northern Eagle
GY65 Lancer
GY68 Tagalie
GY110 Northern Princess
GY121 Northern Prince
GY142 Northern Sea
GY148 Spurs
GY190 Northern Spray
GY204 Northern Gem
GY245 Euryalus
GY249 British
GY263 Cradock
GY280 Mildenhall
GY289 Northern Dawn
GY333 Boston Valetta
GY354 Peken
GY389 Taipo
GY395 Lifeguard
GY427 Northern Sky
GY440 Northern Sun
GY453 Kyoto
GY457 Clixby
GY467 Digby
GY484 Port Vale
GY507 Recordo
GY511 Varanis
GY596 Boston Coronet
GY600 Osako
GY625 Recono
GY661 Tokio
GY664 Lemberg
GY679 Garola
GY689 Okino
GY810 Strephon
GY1037 War Duke
GY1306 Xylopia
GY1367 Kirmington
GY Katie Louise
GY Efficient

Hi Clem
How are you getting on with the list of registered vessels. I came across this post from previously looking at vessels my grandfather was skipper on. His name was Henry Norman from Lowestoft and he was Skipper of GY249 Brittish (HMT British) at the outbreak of ww2. He sailed from Lowestoft to Portland in 1939. He was also a skipper of LT97 Wistaria which I think once was registered in Grimsby?, also GY339 (LT170) Bucentaur, also GY23 (LT279) Walsingham and LT252 Framlingham, not sure if this was ever registered in Grimsby or not. I know he worked for Consolidated Fisheries in his earlier years. Regards Tony Norman

 

[Kerbtrawler]

Morning All,
Got a conundrum Aspasia GY 793 or GY 794

This was sent to me by Birgir of Iceland and as he quite rightly states it shows Aspasia as GY 794 but according to Cox it was only ever registered as GY 793 in fact accordinmg to Cox there never was a GY 794 but to complicate things Cox has it as official number 145541, If you look up this official number, its not Aspasia but a drifter called Asparagus LH 248
so Aspasia should have the official number 138949 According to Olsens 1918
The question becomes which is the correct Registry and which is the correct Official number ?
I await your answers
Cheers
Trevor

 

[Roger Griffiths]

Hello Trevor, long time no speak!
ALL of my sources say ASPASIA official number 138949 was GY 793. Some sources say she was built in 1910. by Smiths Dock, Southbank on Tees. Others say 1916, My guess 1916 as she is not recorded in the MNL until 1917.
On GY register 28/2/1916 Sold to Scarborough 8/4/20. SH291
Sold to Hull 9/5/1924. H27
Sold to Portugal 19/10/1926
See Ship Aspasia , official number: 138949. When built: 1910. Registry closed: 1926. | The National Archives
Two boats GY 794
LEITH 1881-1899
TWO COUSINS 1915/1916

regards
Roger

 

[Roger Griffiths]

Hi Clem
How are you getting on with the list of registered vessels. I came across this post from previously looking at vessels my grandfather was skipper on. His name was Henry Norman from Lowestoft and he was Skipper of GY249 Brittish (HMT British) at the outbreak of ww2. He sailed from Lowestoft to Portland in 1939. He was also a skipper of LT97 Wistaria which I think once was registered in Grimsby?, also GY339 (LT170) Bucentaur, also GY23 (LT279) Walsingham and LT252 Framlingham, not sure if this was ever registered in Grimsby or not. I know he worked for Consolidated Fisheries in his earlier years. Regards Tony Norman

Hello Tony,
Was your Grandad named Henry Benjamin Norman born 06/12/1907? If so he has records in the British National Archives. You may aready have this info.

NORMAN, Henry Benjamin, born 06/12/1907 | The National Archives

The official archive of the UK government. Our vision is to lead and transform information management, guarantee the survival of today's information for tomorrow and bring history to life for everyone.

discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk

regards
Roger

 

[Kerbtrawler]

Hello Trevor, long time no speak!
ALL of my sources say ASPASIA official number 138949 was GY 793. Some sources say she was built in 1910. by Smiths Dock, Southbank on Tees. Others say 1916, My guess 1916 as she is not recorded in the MNL until 1917.
On GY register 28/2/1916 Sold to Scarborough 8/4/20. SH291
Sold to Hull 9/5/1924. H27
Sold to Portugal 19/10/1926
See Ship Aspasia , official number: 138949. When built: 1910. Registry closed: 1926. | The National Archives
Two boats GY 794
LEITH 1881-1899
TWO COUSINS 1915/1916

regards
Roger

Hi Roger, Hope your keeping safe and well
Many thanks for confirming what I could find - it looks like they just painted the wrong number on her
Bet that took some explaining to the new owners.....
Stay safe my friend
regards Trevor

 

[Brian Bevan]

The Guava lost after 31 January 1953
My grandfathers younger brother George Stone was on board and lost when she went down ironically he took the trip from his father who was due to sail on her, George was “hard up “ and needed the money so his father gave him the trip in his place, he never got over the loss and blamed himself for his sons death.....a very sad family story


The Lowestoft trawler Guava that was lost during the disastrous storm of 31 January and 1 Februari 1953 is most likely not the Guava originally called British Columbia and built in 1935, as mentioned by Roger Griffith. The site ‘Fleetwood Online Archive of Trawlers’ reports as Date Sunk: 29/09/1957, 4 years later.

During the storm 9 vessels disappeared and on 4 March 1953 Lloyd’s London dispatched in the Lloyd’s List and Shipping Gazette a ‘Vessel for Inquiry’ message for 8 of these vessels, among these the Guava. The message states (translated back from Dutch to English): “Guava, motor trawler from Lowestoft, registration number 166722, gross tons 285 [personal comment: in contrast to the 134 of the British Columbia], skipper Fisher. Departed from Lowestoft on 30 January 1953. Was reported on 31 January as sailing on 54 20 N, 4 40 E.”

The book ‘Posted Missing’ by Alan Villiers (Hodder and Stoughton, London, 1956, so 3 years after the disaster) pays due attention to these 9 missing ships. It states that the Guava was built in 1945 in Pembroke and served for some time as a mine-sweeper in the Mediterranean. The ship was sold after WW II and converted into a motor trawler for fishing in the North Sea only. The crew total during its fatal trip was 11.

Jasper

 

[barrietheb]

I did three trips to Iceland in Port Vale in 1969. Pretty sure the Skipper was Bill Hardie Jr ( known as "Wiggy") - a whizz kid in his early 20s at the time.

The main thing that stands out in my mind is that she was one of, if not the, last distant water trawler in Grimsby without automatic steering. The deckies refused to sail without it and the company hastily installed a mickey mouse system which operated from the magnetic compass - details very hazy now.

I have a great picture of the ship, painted by Steve Farrow, which, along with others in his collection, was available at the Fishing Museum, Grimsby.

John T.

G'Day John T. That would be "Young Billy Hardie" - not to be confused with his Father "Old Man Hardie"! Do you remember Dollie Hardie? I was 2nd Engineer on the PV, also a few more of Consols - my first being Blackburn Rovers with Stan Boggis being my Chief. I finished up in 1977 as relieving Chief on Goth, fishing for mackerel - what a bloody comedown!!

 

[Sammienielsen1985]

Gy502

Hello everyone

Any help appreciated to identify this one.

It is described as Seanetter GY502. I wonder if Seanetter means seine netter?

Hilary

Do you still have this picture please?

 

[rustytrawler]

Does anybody from Grimsby remember a man named TOMMY FISHER who worked on Grimsby trawlers, he would of started fishing around 1970, "always had a snotty nose did Tommy, if that helps" thanks rusty trawler

 

[v-cm]

Hello,
I'm looking for information about the boat Genara from Grimsby, now sailing in France.
I would be more than interested to have info about her previous life.
Thanks for your answer !

 

[carlt]

billblow,
Many thanks for the info on Jarvit. The North East Lincs Archive records and others strangely hold no details whatsoever on this vessel so this information is priceless.
Just one further question,not being particularly nautical myself is it normal for the gross & net tonnage to be the same?
thanks again,
David.

Sadly Jarvit is now abandoned at Preston and available free to a good home on Ebay.

She looks worthy of saving but sadly I am no longer able to take on such a big project.

(Tempted though).

 

[nick.sigurdsson]

Would you recommend one to by a copy of the Icelandic book: Islendskir Skipstjørnarmenn: Is the title the rigth one??? Do accept the facts about August Waage. Are yoyu sure he was lost overboard???? Grimsby Fishermen Loss list say died onboard ???? Not went owerboard!!!! Yes Gudmundur a Skalla was one of the best trawlers skipper you had' Did he not have a brother who also was trawler skipper. Joachim Gudbjartson also sailed for Consols in GY Icelandic skippers who lived in GY : Paul Adelsteinson August Ebenezerson Bjarni Ebenezerson Sverri Ebenezerson Valdimar Ebeneserson Thor Eyvindson Ossie Johanneson Helgi Johanneson??? Thor Olgeirson sen Thor Olgeirson jun Karl Sigurdson Sigurd Thorsteinson Have you more names to add of Icelandic skippers who settled/lived in Grimsby ??? Jonleif

My father’s name was Karl Sigurdsson so you are missing an ‘s’ in our surname