[Santos]

News just received that HMS Onyx, part of the now defunct ( thanks to property developers )( depict person spitting ) (Cloud) Historic Warships Trust at Birkenhead is to leave Merseyside,

She has been bought by a Lincolnshire Firm for £100.000.

At least she is not being scrapped. It looks like the end of any rescue attempt. I hope a good home is found for the other vessels.

Chris.

 

[mcook]

When I lived in the UK I visited these ships on several occasions with my young children (not that I needed them as an excuse).
I am assuming the 'developers' (spit) are turning the adjacent warehouses into the
usual pile of overpriced flats. I was thinking that what a shame it was that they (spit) could not have incorporated the ships into their development plans? I would imagine that it would have been an attractive selling point if the ships had remained, or at least some of them.
I guess, however, that the thought of losing an acre of land to allow for parking was too expensive (or money losing) for the developers (spit) to consider.

I am pleased to hear, at least, that HMS Onyx now has a future.

My mouth is dry, I am going for a drink!

malcolm

 

[Santos]

Thanks Malcolm,

You are absolutely spot on.

Chris.

 

[Santos]

Hi everyone,

Seems Teletext was wrong, Onyx is going to Barrow, to become part of a Submarine Heritage Centre, which is good news for Barrow, but bad news for the Wirral. Lost out again.

Chris.

 

[john g]

Apart from a nice car park and what looks like a lot of subtle plastic windows the site still looks the same.....I wouldn't live there for a big clock. There are dreams of a massive development ( Canary Warf style) but seeing is believeing doubt that will happen in the near future as you say if the museum had been incorporated things would look better. I think the Frigate is up by the old Clan Line bearth , The U -Boat is at Woodside cut into sections as a museum, your right about the sub, I think there was a mine sweeper but where now ?? Really Merseyside lacks good maritime museum space when you consider the history. Albert Dock is ok but poor on the shipping side when you count the number of companies that were based there.

 

[Thats another Story]

liverpool side there is plenty of empty docks? its a shame all they are now is a big scrap yard.

 

[Captain America]

Wirral Borough Council lacks insight and fore-thought and have been no different since the Tower was dismantled in New Brighton, almost 100 years ago, or numerous other heritage sites which have been squandered. So much so, that I often wonder if the councillors are all in-bred, their short-sightedness is so extreme. Wirral is a great place to live, sadly let down by poor local government, the scale of which only begins to become vividly apparent as the years roll by.

 

[Compass Rose]

I was wondering if any members might have an update as to the fate of HMS Onyx in Barrow.What happen to the plan for a Submarine Heritage Centre ?. The poor old Plymouth is now looking rough laid up in Vittoria Dock Birkenhead. The Bronington has a list, and is falling apart (Decks are shot) rumor had it the the Bronington was going to be taken over by the YMCA as a project! but it will take a very brave(and rich)organization to take her on. Thanks in advance.

 

[Compass Rose]

I guess no members live near Barrow ???

 

[Ron Stringer]

I guess no members live near Barrow ???

Try sparkie2182

 

[Compass Rose]

Try sparkie2182

Thank's Ron, I do have a personal interest in Onyx,very sorry to see her leave the Wirral and nothing heard of since? thanks again

 

[michael charters]

Is one of the reasons for the plight of these historoical ships, is the health and safety issues to the public visiting?

 

[captain61]

No Michael nothing to do with H&S the reason is PEEL HOLDINGS KICKING THEM OFF THERE BERTH, AND THE WARSHIP PRESERVATION NOT LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME


Stephen

 

[Compass Rose]

No Michael nothing to do with H&S the reason is PEEL HOLDINGS KICKING THEM OFF THERE BERTH, AND THE WARSHIP PRESERVATION NOT LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME


Stephen

Not quite right,yes peel holding kicked them of the berth,but there was no viable offer of any new berth ,as the Trust had to be off the berth in a very short time.

 

[sparkie2182]

Hello Compass Rose.........

Oxyx has been longside in the Ramden Dock in Barrow for some time now.
She is entirely deserted and looks forlorn to me.
The Submarine Heritage Center seems to have submerged but an email to the Submariners Association which is based here in Barrow should return with more info.

I will endeavour to post a couple of pics of Onyx for you in the coming week on this thread.

Best regards......

S2182


P.S..........An email to this site may prove worthwhile also........


http://www.dockmuseum.org.uk/

 

[Compass Rose]

Thank's very much for the reply S2182 as you say the poor old Onyx looks forlorn, sad to see her like this, let's hope there is a future for her and that Barrow has an attraction to be proud of.

 

[captain61]

Not quite right,yes peel holding kicked them of the berth,but there was no viable offer of any new berth ,as the Trust had to be off the berth in a very short time.

I know a few of the old trust members, and they had been informed of peel holdings decision for a long time ( just didnt say anything to the staff & volunteers)

I hope they manage to sort out ONYX for you

Stephen

 

[Compass Rose]

I know a few of the old trust members, and they had been informed of peel holdings decision for a long time ( just didnt say anything to the staff & volunteers)

I hope they manage to sort out ONYX for you

Stephen

I see were your coming from Stephen, the board were not know for there ability for keeping staff & vol's informed.

 

[captain61]

Barrow has got its sea festival this weekend hopefully there should be plenty of picsof ONYX on this site this weekend

 

[Degzie]

Hi found a link for HMS Onyx, it appears to give you a interactive tour of the sub.
http://www.baesystemseducationprogramme.com/games-and-multimedia/interactive-learning/
cheers
Degzie