Fred,fred henderson said:Agree all your info Chris, except the source of the 15 inch guns.
In 1915 the Admiralty ordered two crazy monitors from Palmers. There was an extremely urgent need for the ships to support the seaward end of the front in France and after considering various options it was decided to divert two turrets from Ramillies. The turret mechanisim was so deep that the turret was mounted 17 feet above the deck. It was also decided to use diesel ,engines and divert the machinery from two fleet oilers, Trefoil and Turmoil. These were far too small for the job.
The first to complete was Marshall Ney, fitted with two 6 cylinder MAN engines. The trials were disastrous. The MAN diesels were very difficult to start and when she eventually moved off only managed a maximum speed of 6 knots, instead of the design speed of 9 knots. She was so slow that she was almost unmanageable in a tide. The second ship, Marshall Soult was fitted with 8 cylinder Vickers engines and was marginally better. They were reluctantly accepted into sevice but the unreliable machinery in Ney and appalling steering of both ships led to their rapid withdrawal.
The main turret was removed Ney in 1916 and used in the monitor Terror. It was the turret from Soult that was used in Roberts.
That is a very interesting site Chris, but I think they are wrong about the source of the main turret for Roberts. If you look at the entry they have for Marshall Ney you will see a WW I photo of her without the turret.Santos said:Fred,
I got the info off the following site when I was doing some research, it gave the Ney as the as the monitor the guns came from for Roberts.
Agree with your comments on web sites. My information comes from my Jane's of the period plus the wonderful Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships.Santos said:Fred,
I accept what you say, you are probably right. I have found by bitter experience that these sites often contain duff info and conjecture rather than fact. I dont think its intended most of the time, I think its entered in good faith but not double checked as to factual correctness.