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Blue Funnel's cadet training ship DIOMED (V) (1956/7,980 grt) berthed at Vittoria Dock, Birkenhead
 

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Cadets/Midshipmen

Midshipmen not cadets.
Diomed took over from Bellerphon as the "middy" training ship in the '50's.
I was on the "Bellerophon" from 1952 until 1954 and did 6 Far Eastern trips plus coasting voyages in that time. She was not a training ship then. The training ship that I remember in those days was the "Calchas".

I believe the "Diomed" took over from the "Calchas".

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www.rhiw.com

Just found a brilliant new site for us Ex-Blueflu guys. Go to Rhiw.com, it really is very good!
Thanks for that link Trevorw. I clicked on last night and spent a couple of hours on there. Some great Blue Flue photos and articles. I am not an Engineer but the article about coal burners was fascinating. I thought that you just shovelled coal into a furnace and that was it. Not with Blue Funnel though.
I am also interested in the local coasters so I will be going back there later on for another look.

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Thanks for that link Trevorw. I clicked on last night and spent a couple of hours on there. Some great Blue Flue photos and articles. I am not an Engineer but the article about coal burners was fascinating. I thought that you just shovelled coal into a furnace and that was it. Not with Blue Funnel though.
I am also interested in the local coasters so I will be going back there later on for another look.

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Understand the 'Diomed' ceased to be a cadet ship due to a certain incident in Hong Kong around 1959 when the middies painted 'Cocoa' on the half round.
McDavid was the Master so one can work it out. McDavid was Master of the 'Peleus' (the Xmas ship) after this incident and stayed there until 1964 when he retired and was relieved by Albert Lane. Brother to Sir Herbert, MD of the Glen Line. Tough but fair....... Hughie Davies (recently deceased was the Mate)
 

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Understand the 'Diomed' ceased to be a cadet ship due to a certain incident in Hong Kong around 1959 when the middies painted 'Cocoa' on the half round.
McDavid was the Master so one can work it out. McDavid was Master of the 'Peleus' (the Xmas ship) after this incident and stayed there until 1964 when he retired and was relieved by Albert Lane. Brother to Sir Herbert, MD of the Glen Line. Tough but fair....... Hughie Davies (recently deceased was the Mate)
I sailed on the "Bellerophon" 1952/1954 and Capt.McDavid was master on a couple of the six trips that I made. He was a nice man. The incident that you mentioned in 1959 is probably just a rumour because I heard the same story in 1954.
Just looked in my discharge book and see that A. Lane was "old man" on the "Bellerophon" on a coasting trip. Can't say that I remember him.

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Re Albert Lane. Sailed with him on the Pyrrhus in 67. Called into Pusan homeward bound only to be advised there was no cargo for us. Unusual for a China Boat. Managed to wrap a stern line around the propeller. Only time I ever saw old Albert get excited.
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I sailed on the "Bellerophon" 1952/1954 and Capt.McDavid was master on a couple of the six trips that I made. He was a nice man. The incident that you mentioned in 1959 is probably just a rumour because I heard the same story in 1954.
Just looked in my discharge book and see that A. Lane was "old man" on the "Bellerophon" on a coasting trip. Can't say that I remember him.

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I did my two trips on the Diomed in probably 59-60 what happened then was that the last two letters of the company's HK launch ARES were reversed, it innocently made one of the HK newspapers on a photo. Looking at the dignitaries over the stern of the launch with the altered name clearly visible.. I don't remember the master's name and she made a couple more training trips before I finished my time.
 

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The Diomed was, if not a training ship, certainly a normal Blue Flue trading ship but manned by midshipmen, with an old bosun in nominal oversight. I did my two coastings and two deep sea from July 1961 to late spring 1962. For the second voyage I was bosun's mate, supposedly in charge of the crew, with Charlie Brown as lamp-trimmer holding everything together. We worked Christmas in Singapore and New Year in Hong Kong, so when we got to Otaru in Hokaido, the Chief was persuaded to give us four days off for skiing. Not a normal trip but a great learning experience. For all its faults it was the envy of many other companies.
 

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The Diomed was, if not a training ship, certainly a normal Blue Flue trading ship but manned by midshipmen, with an old bosun in nominal oversight. I did my two coastings and two deep sea from July 1961 to late spring 1962. For the second voyage I was bosun's mate, supposedly in charge of the crew, with Charlie Brown as lamp-trimmer holding everything together. We worked Christmas in Singapore and New Year in Hong Kong, so when we got to Otaru in Hokaido, the Chief was persuaded to give us four days off for skiing. Not a normal trip but a great learning experience. For all its faults it was the envy of many other companies.
I remember it well! By the way, Ron (Telfer) passed away ten years ago.
 
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