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Did Robert not help out in the rescue of the crew of the m.v.Akka after she hit The Gantocks. I believe he was helping out Rab Ritchie on the late ferry from Dunoon.
 

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Did Robert not help out in the rescue of the crew of the m.v.Akka after she hit The Gantocks. I believe he was helping out Rab Ritchie on the late ferry from Dunoon.

Jeez , that's a name from the past ; Rab Ritchie..........
Lady Jane Ritchie on the Gourock - Kilcreggan run . An open boat with
a single cylinder diesel . Learned to steer on the Granny Kempock , Gourock
- Helensbrough late '50's.

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Cranky, I remember going on board the British Monarch at the time Iwas only in short pants as they say . At that time New Plymouth had it's share of Port,Blue Star, Shaw Saville. NZSC vessels. (HomeBoats) as they were often refered to and it was good to see a different company. I remember the Second Mate showing me around.My mother happened to mention when we got home that she thought she had seen his photo in the paper. After checking around she found it. I am sorry to say I had never heard about your fellow apprentice or indeed the female Second Engineer until I read about it in SN.How it was missed I don,t know. In the seventies I was on the dredge Ngamotu for five years and he was never mentiond. I would however like to complement SN members fot getting things sorted out.
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Robert Ian Cramman

I have been reading your messages ref Robbies grave and the efforts you all went to obtain the correct anwswers and I am quite literally overwhelmed at your responses and the results that you all achieved especially the KIWI lads .
Thank you all doesnt seem sufficient but it was very well done THANK YOU ALL .
God bless ,
delboy
HelloThere,

My Name is Stan McNally and I was the R/o of the British Monarch and started the search for information on your brother and our young Hero.
We have a museum at Fort Perch Rock at New Brighton Merseyside were we are remembering the Merchant Navy. We had the story about our 2nd mate falling overboard in the Pacific and we picked up safe and well after 9 hours.
But we did not have the details of your Robert - I had forgotten - which bothered me very much but through the good old galley network all was found!!!.

I am going to NZ and New Plymouth very soon now (April 08) and if ther is anything you would personally want me to do - I will gladly do it. I am going on my own behalf because he was a "shipmate" of mine.

Best regards,

Stan McNally
 

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Re the loss of Robert Crammon in NZ - I was an apprentice with him on that voyage and have responded privately to his brother with a description of events - through the haze of 50 years, along with some pictures - equally hazy! What a great job of tracking down the gravesite picture and particularly the one of the funeral posted in the Gallery. I believe it is the first time I have seen it & it brought the whole event back to me.
This was an eventful trip with our female 2nd. Eng. and the 2nd. Mate's 9 hours in the water - I have provided my take on these events in the appropriate threads. I may have the details wrong but the voyage started in Bremen through the Magellan Str. to NZ - the Canal dues were more than Messrs. Raeburn and Verel could afford, even with the cheap labour of 6 apprentices! Then Fiji - Vancouver - East Coast US - Baton Rouge - Japan- Nauru -Europe. Probably a few more legs also. For the apprentices, one of the highlights was the money we made humping mail bags that we took from Auckland to New Plymouth. Road and rail links were washed out I believe and the Post Office regs required us to be paid. Made more than a months apprentice wages!
She was a good ship with a great crowd. I wrapped up my apprenticeship on her with a spell as 3rd Mate at the end. Would love to hear from any other Monarch Line apprentices of this era, but suspect there won't be a whole lot of us left.
I attended the funeral of a Master Mariner in Aberdeen around Xmas time last year. He was Capt. Lewis McKay , a native of Dundee, late master in B.P. and I believe he served his time in the British Monarch I think in 1944 - maybe before your time.
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Hello There,

We are off to NZ again this year - I have some photo's which I would like to send you, which we took when in New Plymouth last year.
Would you like me to send them.
Also do you have any old photo of Robbie - would like to put it with his story at Foty Perch Rock - we are writing a new Web site which should be up and running soon.

Best regards,

Stan McNally
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Hello There,

We are off to NZ again this year - I have some photo's which I would like to send you, which we took when in New Plymouth last year.
Would you like me to send them.
Also do you have any old photo of Robbie - would like to put it with his story at Foty Perch Rock - we are writing a new Web site which should be up and running soon.

Best regards,

Stan McNally
ex R/O British Monarch
Your post brought this thread to the fore. For that, thank you - its been a good read.

Please let us know when your site goes live - I'm sure SN won't mind!
 
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