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How does one go about framing an insurance allegation around Karma? Is it the same difficult category as latent defect? (Merry merry etc. Jim, good to see you 'up' here).
 

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Hi Jim, My trip on the Texas was relatively uneventful in the engine room apart from the oil pouring out of the rotary exhaust valves. This was cured by renewing all the valves seals which took place in Port Netches in Texas in the late end of 1977, there was Sulzer guy supervising this . One problem for me was a fuel transfer steam recip pump in the fwd pump room which would stop for no apparent reason. The trouble was when it stopped the whole pump room filled up with steam, so you had to wrap a wet towel around your head take a deep breath and run to the bottom of the pump room get the pump running get a few breaths at the bottom of the pump room and run back out.

As for the Dalma I did two trips on that nightmare, if you were not crawling into a roasting hot boiler drum to plug leaking tubes you were continually changing the fuel injectors from slow steaming to normal nozzles, guess who was the third in charge of fuel injectors. The fuel injector workshop was at the top of the engine room not the coolest place on the ship. The Dalma seemed to go through a load of bad piston crowns or bad piston cooling ( I never did find out which) we were forever changing out pistons, even did one on Xmas day. For this one we had run out of spare rebuilt pistons so had to break one apart and fit a new crown. Still we had two engines so never actually stopped but it did roll very slightly so it was a bit of fun trying to do units while underway.

Just in case you have forgotten what it looked like here is a pic. It was not all bad thought there was always plenty of cold beer.


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Great photos John. I recall in the late 70's there were a few ships that nearly engineer were referred to when things were going wrong - you think this is bad, you should have been on the Dalma !!!
 

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Hi Guys,

My trip on the Nordic Texas (1977), it was my first motor ship after spending two years on the GTVs and one trip on the Burmah Zircon.
Hey Hey. Great photos. Brings back memories.
The Naess Texas, later Nordic Texas was my first ship as deck apprentice / cadet, and the Naess Soveriegn (Burmah Zircon) was my 3rd shiip..
Joined the Texas in Rotterdam where she had just come out of drydock. Trevor Hipkin - HR as we would call them these days - told me to wear uniform to go join the ship. Flew to Rotterdam in uniform and while waiting for the agent I was approached several times by people wanting to know info about flights. Duh! Anyway arrived at the ship with my huge suitcase and up the gangway goes I. The deck apprentice, nicknamed Gabby, (don't recall his actual name, think Hayes was his surname) met me and laughed about wearing uniform, as did almost all the officers later that day. Got signed on etc. Turn to, to sail shortly after. Later, first job was to grease the starboard aft maindeck mooring winch cable. What a c--t of a job. Black grease. Spreading the grease along the steel wire cable by hand. Welcome to Denholms.....

Some crew names I recall are Ch/Off's - Donald Urquhart (1 trip Rotterdam / Beaumont) and Peter Homes who had his first child when he was at sea, 4/E Bobby Johnston, 3/O Alan Patterson, 2/E Harry Lewsley - He died on top of the boilers, heart attack from recall. Despite a medical emergency call, an Italian pazzy boat ignored us. Diverted to the Azores where his wife came aboard, very sad. She left with his body.
Peter Homes Ch/Off gave me the nickname of Smythe, as he had had another apprentice previously called Smithy (Brian Laurenson from Shetland - I did pre-sea with him the year before).

Have a few yarns.. which I will recount later.
 

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Hi Ian Snap I did the same I joined Denholms as a Junior having served and apprenticeship with the MOD I was told by the ex MN guys I worked with that I should wear a uniform, OMG did I get the piss taken out of me for that. It was the Naess Sovereign although it changed its name that day to Burmah Zircon.
 

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Anyone remember what temperature the cargo was keep at. The melting point of sulphur 115.21 C so I suppose is was just above that at about 120C maybe??????
 

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Good photos and interesting stories even for someone who has not sailed with Denholms.....(y)

Cheers Frank
 

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Never heard of the "Texas" going anywhere but the Mexican Gulf to Rotterdam,part cargo to Dublin twice a year. 20 hours to load in the States, 16 in Roterdam + 48 hrs. off hire for engine maintenance every 6 months.
Must have needed some extra charts from her usual round!
Very interesting post which I enjoyed reading
I have a few memories of my first trip on Nordic Texas in ‘77. Joined in Beaumont as an engineering cadet to help bring her out of layup. Chief Engineer was known as the “bald eagle” but his real name remains unknown to me as does most of the people I sailed with due to a couple of motorcycle accidents that have scrambled the old brain box. The second engineer was Helmut Fricke who I also met again ( along with his wife Isobel?) when I later sailed on Nordic Louisiana.
I learned a lot about work ethic on both vessels - which held me in good stead later when sailing on the Dalma.
On the Texas I recall the L.O. recovery system of an oil drum at the aft end of the scavenge box with an air pump to return the leakage back to the sump. It took three days to get from Beaumont to Mobile due to blackouts, fires under the exhaust valves, scavenge fires, etc.
Drydock at Mobile seemed to go OK and once the trials and settling down were done, we loaded for Rotterdam and then commenced the ballast voyage to Japan.
I think John Gowers and I met on the Texas and sailed again together on either Dalma or Sir Alexander Glen.
I probably did meet Jim Weedon at some time - though as I was well down the ranks and my memory fails those days, it is possible we have managed to miss each other. I believe Jim was slated to take over from me at Atlantic Marine in Bermuda around 1994 but if so we were never allowed to meet then either.
Fortunately my wife has some recall of people we met when she was onboard -
the likes of Rodney Megran whom she got along with very well, George and Anne Maguire,
Ray Eastwood, Willie Stewart,
Do I remember correctly a 2/E that used to prefer being called Romeo ( or something similar?)

I had hoped to be able to recall more of the past but the sea time prior to around 1984 is something I have difficulty with. Still it is good to see one or two names that jog some respons and John Gowers story of being on Nordic Texas puts him right at the time I was also onboard.
I would also like to thank any of those still around for all their help. We all learn a lot from our peers and I think , though those days are now long gone , we did a damn good job working in cir***stances the modern snowflake generation would not believe. You really had to have been there.
 

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Hi Steve, Long time no hear. Trust you are keeping well.

It may amuse other readers that I recall your obituary being published in the Institute magasine when you were still over here.
 

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Hi Steve, Long time no hear. Trust you are keeping well.

It may amuse other readers that I recall your obituary being published in the Institute magasine when you were still over here.
Hi Dave
Yes the reports of my demise were greatly exaggerated. Never did find out how that happened.
Sort of semi retired now and living in Suffolk looking after the wife. Unfortunately she was diagnosed with Parkinsons a few years ago. Family is doing fine and those not yet vaccinated have managed to avoid COVID so far. The lockdown is our biggest pain in the rear - we had been hoping to get some time to do a bit of travelling and take in a TT last year but the restrictions put paid to that. This year is also a washout!. A little freedom by next year is an absolute necessity.
Hope all well on the IOM.
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Hi Steve,
I was on the Texas 19.8.76 to 28.1.77, Helmut's wife was Isobel, they lived in Pollokshaws, South side of Glasgow and I saw Helmut again when I went for my seconds ticket used to meet up with him for a few beers, he also dragged me to the casino in Glasgow on Friday afternoons a few times when we should have been in collage.

Just read your posting again it was 1976 we went to Japan so we must have sailed together as the Texas only ever did one trip to Japan. This must be you on the left as the photo says Steve E/C and Roddy J/E on the back. This was in my cabin after leaving Japan as you can see by the amount of empty Kirin cans lying about and I think we all bought electric toys to take home. If I remember right the frog on the floor would go around in circles and then do a back flip.

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I was never on the Glen but was on the SJH three times and Dalma twice.

SJH 18.11/77 to 13.3.78, 27.1.79 to 1.6.79, 22.7.83 to 16.12.83
Dalma 28.9.79 to 20.2.80, 14.10.81 to 17.1.82

I would never have a clue about these dates if it was not for the discharge book and certs of sea service.

Got my jag last week and my wife the week before.

This is Helmut from the Denholm's News
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Hi Steve,
I was on the Texas 19.8.76 to 28.1.77, Helmut's wife was Isobel, they lived in Pollokshaws, South side of Glasgow and I saw Helmut again when I went for my seconds ticket used to meet up with him for a few beers, he also dragged me to the casino in Glasgow on Friday afternoons a few times when we should have been in collage.

Just read your posting again it was 1976 we went to Japan so we must have sailed together as the Texas only ever did one trip to Japan. This must be you on the left as the photo says Steve E/C and Roddy J/E on the back. This was in my cabin after leaving Japan as you can see by the amount of empty Kirin cans lying about and I think we all bought electric toys to take home. If I remember right the frog on the floor would go around in circles and then do a back flip.

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I was never on the Glen but was on the SJH three times and Dalma twice.

SJH 18.11/77 to 13.3.78, 27.1.79 to 1.6.79, 22.7.83 to 16.12.83
Dalma 28.9.79 to 20.2.80, 14.10.81 to 17.1.82

I would never have a clue about these dates if it was not for the discharge book and certs of sea service.

Got my jag last week and my wife the week before.

This is Helmut from the Denholm's News
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Hi John.
Yes that's me on the left - wife and kids have had a good laugh at that photo.
I am sure we must have met again on Dalma. I was onboard when we lost a T/A which caused a switchboard fire then a few weeks later off Las Palmas (if memory serves) had a D/A fire which took out most of the wiring running under the switchboard causing electrical fires. The flames were sucked into the Starboard engine turbochargers - as you may recall the D.A's were strategically placed on the bottom plates Starboard Fwd of the ER directly under switchboard wiring. I think at the time we were in ballast heading back from Europe to PG the long way. We were adrift for 4 or so days cannabilising wires and circuit breakers from both engine systems and various electrical main and sub section boards to get the Port engine running and made our way to Capetown for repairs.
My discharge book is long gone - lost in one of the many house moves over the years along with most of the photos and negatives from various ships. I can't be 100% sure of the dates but for sure I feel we have met more than once.

Helmut, I think, tried to keep me occupied and out of the bar in Beaumont. More for the protection of the bar Owners licence I guess. He was not always successful and I have had an aversion to Tequila ever since one of the sessions in that bar.
Its annoying for me not to be able to recall some of the memories or people I sailed with on various ships. Putting things in a chronological order from the past is also not that easy, I guess being hit by cars will do that for you.
If I am ever Glasgow way I will drop you a line - maybe we can have a couple of beers?
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Hi John.
Yes that's me on the left - wife and kids have had a good laugh at that photo.
I am sure we must have met again on Dalma. I was onboard when we lost a T/A which caused a switchboard fire then a few weeks later off Las Palmas (if memory serves) had a D/A fire which took out most of the wiring running under the switchboard causing electrical fires. The flames were sucked into the Starboard engine turbochargers - as you may recall the D.A's were strategically placed on the bottom plates Starboard Fwd of the ER directly under switchboard wiring. I think at the time we were in ballast heading back from Europe to PG the long way. We were adrift for 4 or so days cannabilising wires and circuit breakers from both engine systems and various electrical main and sub section boards to get the Port engine running and made our way to Capetown for repairs.
My discharge book is long gone - lost in one of the many house moves over the years along with most of the photos and negatives from various ships. I can't be 100% sure of the dates but for sure I feel we have met more than once.

Helmut, I think, tried to keep me occupied and out of the bar in Beaumont. More for the protection of the bar Owners licence I guess. He was not always successful and I have had an aversion to Tequila ever since one of the sessions in that bar.
Its annoying for me not to be able to recall some of the memories or people I sailed with on various ships. Putting things in a chronological order from the past is also not that easy, I guess being hit by cars will do that for you.
If I am ever Glasgow way I will drop you a line - maybe we can have a couple of beers?
Brgds
Hi Steve
Great to hear from you, I was on the Dalma as I said but there were never any fires. It was mostly boiler tubes leaking or piston crowns failing during my stint there.
I moved to the dark side in the mid 80s onto offshore drilling rigs and worked all over the world on these, think I ended up going to more countries than I did with MN.
The Texas was disaster and it was filthy but I enjoyed every minute on it, great bunch of guys I think one of the chiefs was Brian Davidson and the other was Berry.

There is a thread called Denholms News where Willie Monroe has uploaded a load of the old Denholms News they make interesting reading.

All the best mate and if we ever meet up a few beers would be good.
 

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Hi Steve,
I was on the Texas 19.8.76 to 28.1.77, Helmut's wife was Isobel, they lived in Pollokshaws, South side of Glasgow and I saw Helmut again when I went for my seconds ticket used to meet up with him for a few beers, he also dragged me to the casino in Glasgow on Friday afternoons a few times when we should have been in collage.

Just read your posting again it was 1976 we went to Japan so we must have sailed together as the Texas only ever did one trip to Japan. This must be you on the left as the photo says Steve E/C and Roddy J/E on the back. This was in my cabin after leaving Japan as you can see by the amount of empty Kirin cans lying about and I think we all bought electric toys to take home. If I remember right the frog on the floor would go around in circles and then do a back flip.

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I was never on the Glen but was on the SJH three times and Dalma twice.

SJH 18.11/77 to 13.3.78, 27.1.79 to 1.6.79, 22.7.83 to 16.12.83
Dalma 28.9.79 to 20.2.80, 14.10.81 to 17.1.82

I would never have a clue about these dates if it was not for the discharge book and certs of sea service.

Got my jag last week and my wife the week before.

This is Helmut from the Denholm's News
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All the best
Sailed with Helmut when he was 3/E on the Mountpark. Do not think he stayed in the UK at that time. Why were there so many German engineers in Denholms ? Also sailed with Helmut Ehlers 3/E, and Willie Gensch 2/E - both Naess Pioneer. I believe Gensch died on board the Dealmouth some years later. Also sailed with Arnie Barczac (2/E Avon Bridge - 1972)
 

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Varley, (Dave?)
I saw from Steve Dawson's posting you live in the IOM, can you help me identify a couple of photos. I visited the IOM in 1987 and have these two photos any help in identifying the places would be appreciated.

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John,

The one on the right is Douglas inner harbour with the closest building on the right being 'The British' (not a bad pint of Okell's) next door is the then chandler Manx Marine - moved to the tongue and became a part time enterprise. The inner harbour is now gated off and is a 'marina'.

The one on the left is Port Erin. The white building at beach level inland of the light is the Cosy Nook Cafe presently embroiled with the commissioners who want it knocked down Vs some public who don't want a mini gin-palace. Off stage to the right you would find the Bay Hotel home of Bushy's proprietor, Martin Brunnschweiler. My preferred pint being their Castletown bitter.

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Hi David,
Thanks for that I spent a very pleasant couple of weeks there in the 1987 as I had to get out of the country for a few weeks because of the UK taxman. It was the closest 'foreign' country and it was only about 20 mins by air from Glasgow.
John
 
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