Have been approached by one Anthony Green, Singapore, to help him in writing a book on the pilgrim trade. Are there any BF member who can help with first hand knowledge eg Tyndareus or Gunung Djati?
Hardly the spirit of comradeship which is likely to elicit much information, or much of a welcome to tfpjohnson - what will he think of us?SN has repeatedly requested posters keep to the gist of the thread.
As a newcomer to the site canst possibly comply?
Am not really interested who you sailed with in BF.
If you had taken the trouble to read the thread you'll have seen that it was initiated by a question regarding Tyndareus and Gunung Djati.May I timidly suggest that it wasn't only the magnificent, perfect, and immaculate BF and their highly trained wonder crews who operated pilgrim ships. Other more ordinary British companies ran them also!
tfpjohnson my apologies for not noting your SN date of joining.Did a season late fifties as 1st r/o on Gunung Djati with Capt.McMillan
also did Chinese Repat voyage Have some photos exact dates up in the
"loft" regards tfpjohnson
GD built 1936 as German Ostafrika Line's Pretoria.Can't have been the Gunung Djati in the late 50's - she was still the "Dunera" then!
Hello theretfpjohnson my apologies for not noting your SN date of joining.
Welcome to the site and all it has to offer.
I'm presently without success searching for Anthony Green's email address as I'm sure he would be interested in any pilgrim ship experiences, and/or any pics of GD which I hope will also appear in SN gallery.
Visited GD on her very first BF voyage, I think in Djakarta. Was amazed at BF's radio room conversion!
My Dad was 1st Mate on the Gunung Djati and regarded Capt. McMillan as a good Catain, the only problem he had with him was that he liked to discuss issues at length which meant that it was hard to get a quick decision off him other than that he was very goodNever knew McMillan was in the 'Gunung Djati'. I sailed with him in the late 50s and not a pleasant experience.
Michael,My Dad was 1st Mate on the Gunung Djati and regarded Capt. McMillan as a good Catain, the only problem he had with him was that he liked to discuss issues at length which meant that it was hard to get a quick decision off him other than that he was very good
No worries Bill,Michael,
I was merely giving my opinion and afterall, I would not have got to know him as well as your father.
No worries Bill,
I was just intrigued by your comments and had a word with my Dad about it. Since I found this website it has aroused my curiosty about all things Blue Flu, I've been badgering him to tell me his story but he's not keen to talk about the past although once I get a drop of booze into him he loosens up.
With regards to the Gunung Djati he joined her in December 1958 in Glasgow for her first voyage. They had two chief Officers on board, one to manage the Pilgrims and the other to manage the ship. My Dad was the Pilgrim Officer
and he says it was Ok but once they had been to Mecca a lot of them gave up the will to live and he had a lot of burials to supervise.
He was also 1st mate on the Tyndareus in 1953.