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can any body give me any knowledge about a public house i read in a thread on this site, it is purely of interest to know if it still exists.
It was the red ensign club which was allocated in aldgate east in east london.
any info and personal stories would be good to hear and if it still exist, if so rough (*)) ly where about in aldgate east. (*)) (*))
 

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Red Ensign club was hardly a Public House, although I did spend a lot of time in the bar after signing on crew members in Dock Street. It was a hotel come meeting place come shop, I remember buying my initial Apprentice gear there after signing my indentures.

There was a thread about this before Xmas, last time I was down there the building existed and looked like students accommodation.
 

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Red Ensign club was hardly a Public House, although I did spend a lot of time in the bar after signing on crew members in Dock Street. It was a hotel come meeting place come shop, I remember buying my initial Apprentice gear there after signing my indentures.

There was a thread about this before Xmas, last time I was down there the building existed and looked like students accommodation.
Wal

Theres a piece in one of the London websites that area is going to be knocked down for building for the Olympic Games.
 

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Hi!
You might already know this, but from what my mother says, seamen would live at the Red Ensign Club when not at sea. It was located in London. My dad lived there during the early 1950's. I'm not sure if it still exists.
 

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Last time I was in London it was a block o flats ,Used to stay there myself in the 60's the Brown Bear and the Jungle + the the Duke of ? was still there then but that was a few years ago now. the Blue Anchor that was on the corner towards the river was pulled down early 60's , that was quite a night when they clossed for the last time
 

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Red Ensign Club

can any body give me any knowledge about a public house i read in a thread on this site, it is purely of interest to know if it still exists.
It was the red ensign club which was allocated in aldgate east in east london.
any info and personal stories would be good to hear and if it still exist, if so rough (*)) ly where about in aldgate east. (*)) (*))
It was a seamans missionif you like with accommodation,bar,welfare office etc and was just along from Dock Street pool and right up against the wallof London & St Katherine Docks. I used in many times in the 1950s and latefortiesas I was on Dock St Pool. London Dock was one of the main wine docks with hugewine cellars underneath. I used to sail there on General Steam ships and another regular company was MacAndrews, Curries of Leith and Coast Lines. To reach it you came out ofAldgate East underground,District Line,and turned sharp right heading towards Cable St. Real seamens pubs roundthat area with some I recallin a entry above. It was a LONG time ago....Good luck
Stuart H
 

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I never worked out how the Dock Street Shipping Office was in Ensign Street and the Ensign Club was in Dock Street. Odd place was London in the '60s.................pete (Pint)(Pint)
 

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Last time I was in London it was a block o flats ,Used to stay there myself in the 60's the Brown Bear and the Jungle + the the Duke of ? was still there then but that was a few years ago now. the Blue Anchor that was on the corner towards the river was pulled down early 60's , that was quite a night when they clossed for the last time
Bill. I was also in the Blue Anchor the night it closed down,late 64, I was in General Steam at the time. Quite a night as you stated.If I remember correctly they advertised it was to be closed by a well known personality.which was the landlord himself.
 

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All I can remember about that night John was having a bit of a argy bargy with a guy ,he was actually in the other bar but we seemed to fall out looking through the hatch that and the fact that everything had to go starboard light, tia maria, the lot
Bill
 

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If you fire up Google-Maps Street View you can navigate down Leman Street to Shark Island, under the bridge by the Brown Bear (still there, tho tarted up,to yuppy standards with flowers in baskets hangin outside. (Cloud) ) to the 'old' Red Ensign in Dock Street. I'm glad to see my pub is still there, looking much the same, bar a name change from Hearts of Oak to Pepperpot. The Brown Bear http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=51.510886,-0.068547&spn=0.00238,0.006453&z=18&layer=c&cbll=51.51143,-0.068713&panoid=63m2QLX4LjgNtg2yzjyrDQ&cbp=12,110.19,,0,9.79 Good site lads, made me quite sad tho to see all these beautiful ships gone
 

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If you fire up Google-Maps Street View you can navigate down Leman Street to Shark Island, under the bridge by the Brown Bear (still there, tho tarted up,to yuppy standards with flowers in baskets hangin outside. (Cloud) ) to the 'old' Red Ensign in Dock Street. I'm glad to see my pub is still there, looking much the same, bar a name change from Hearts of Oak to Pepperpot. The Brown Bear http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=51.510886,-0.068547&spn=0.00238,0.006453&z=18&layer=c&cbll=51.51143,-0.068713&panoid=63m2QLX4LjgNtg2yzjyrDQ&cbp=12,110.19,,0,9.79 Good site lads, made me quite sad tho to see all these beautiful ships gone
Hi Jacko,
My memories of that area are fading over the years, but they go back to the '50's so I do have some excuse. The pub you said was called The Hearts Of Oak was just a few doors away from the old Dock St. pool. It was always known as 'the pepper house' because of the strong smells from the spice warehouses around it. That is obviously how it got its new name. I always thought that The Red Ensign Club was in Leman St. next to the police station, unless that was another Sailors Home. I remember getting involved in a punch up there one night with some Polish seamen. We finished up in the nick, but were sent away at the finish with a caution. I haven't been that way now for at least 30 years but have visited the area often on Google, as you do. The top end of Leman St. is unrecognisable, and as for Gardners Corner and around that bit I think I would get lost now.
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Pearl Diver..I think Leman street finished at Cable street and and continued on as Dock Street down to The Highway. interesting that the 'local' name for the Hearts of Oak was The Pepperpot. I remember the cop shop near the top of Leman Street, (not intimately I hasten to add) rather as I was broke one time and was reading a book about Jack the Ripper so I wandered around all his old stamping grounds (all in the area). I went into the police station and the fellows were quite helpful and showed me a few papers and things from the time. 1888. I doubt if they would do that nowadays. The Dock Street pool was in Prescott Street and the shipping office was in Ensign Street. Switch from Google Street View to map view..I rather think I would get lost around there nowadays too.
 

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Pearl Diver..I think Leman street finished at Cable street and and continued on as Dock Street down to The Highway. interesting that the 'local' name for the Hearts of Oak was The Pepperpot. I remember the cop shop near the top of Leman Street, (not intimately I hasten to add) rather as I was broke one time and was reading a book about Jack the Ripper so I wandered around all his old stamping grounds (all in the area). I went into the police station and the fellows were quite helpful and showed me a few papers and things from the time. 1888. I doubt if they would do that nowadays. The Dock Street pool was in Prescott Street and the shipping office was in Ensign Street. Switch from Google Street View to map view..I rather think I would get lost around there nowadays too.
Hello again Jacko, you must be one of the younger ones. The pool was switched from Dock St. to Prescott St. after my time at sea, and the office in Ensign St. was the NUS offices. Nice talking to you and stirring up memories of the most carefree time in my life.
PD (pete)
 

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Long time since I was called 'one of the younger ones.' Around 1961 til 1963 Dock street then KG5, then back to DockenStrasse.Ended up in BP and Joe Shell contract.
One of the younger ones :) hmm I may go out tonight and try my luck.
 

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Long time since I was called 'one of the younger ones.' Around 1961 til 1963 Dock street then KG5, then back to DockenStrasse.Ended up in BP and Joe Shell contract.
One of the younger ones :) hmm I may go out tonight and try my luck.
Stayed at Red Ensign Club in mid 60's, whilst taking silver service waiters course at P&O school in Prescott St, had great fun in the pubs of an evening - remember Brown Bear & Princess of Prussia,
an old salt in there pointed out a stained patch on the wooden floor and said it was bloodstain where one of the Kray twins victims was axed. Going to the smoke for a few days in June so will have a look around there then. We went up to Anchor house in Canning town for the dances - lots of lovely Irish Nurses there to boogie etc with. Worked by several P&O vessels whilst there serving at "special" lunches on Arcadia, Orcades etc at Tilbury, got a taxi back from Canning town toTilbury one night as we were stopping over onboard Arcadia & had to leg it as the only money we had between four of us was about 25 Singapore dollars! Come signing on day aboard Arcadia, expected after our training to sign on as commis waiters, but told it was night GD's, told them to stuff it & went back to Hull pool, only one of the four of us from Hull I remember & still see is Keith Patrick - he went on to be barman on Norwave, Norland etc -Happy days eh! (Pint) PaulR
 
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