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Hi Steve
SOUTHAMPTON CASTLE was sister of GOOD HOPE CASTLE built in
england in 1965 they were reefer carriers.
They were sold to Italian COSTA LINE in 1978 and they served this Italian owners until the end of 1980 under the name FRANCA C and PAOLA C.
they were broken up under this name.
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Most people remember where they were when Elvis died.
I was aboard .....Southampton Castle completing the last two voyages down to the Cape where we were given a magnificent send off as you would expect.
Can any other members remember where they were then?
 

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Southamton castle

I am interested in the union castle ships, Southampton Castle and Goodhope Castle.As a child i travled on these ships to St helena from Southampton and cape town.Now later on in life i am trying to compile as much infomation, photos ec of these ships as there is not much recognition given to thse elegent and fast ships.And also catch with peole who served on these ships.
 

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Welcome aboard, rms.
I too have an interest in these two ships and it's a bit difficult being so far away to always find relevant material.
In particular, I would like to see an itinerary for them - everything I have come across so far seems to concentrate on the passenger vessels. Any ideas as to where I may find any?
 

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Hi
you are right there is not much information on these ships, i only have photos
i have found on the web and my family photos on the ship and of the ships themselves.I have good photo of the Windsor castle in port at Cape Town taken from the Southampton Castle.I want to try and compile as much technical info on these ships ships layout, Accommodation and especially life on board.I am hoping ex crew members, Passengers can share information and may be photos. I will be going to the uk next year and will try to get some plans of the ship from the maratime museum.Thank you for your reply keep in touch.
 

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There was a big article on her when she was new in the British shipping magazine "The Motor Ship" June 1965 issue. Includes plans, and a marvellous cutaway drawing of her.
 

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In the early 1960s Union Castle was facing the problem of declining passenger demand, balanced by a strong demand for express cargo. The passenger service was very dependent upon cargo earnings with most of the north-bound passenger voyages carrying over 10,000 tons of citrus fruit, pineapples, avocado pears, beef, wool and mail. Union Castle decided to improve the economics of the service by making a two day reduction in the voyage time from Southampton to Cape Town, thereby enabling the service to performed by 7 ships instead of 8. The post-war passenger ships were capable of operating the new schedule, but the 3 pre-war ships were too slow. These were replaced by two new all cargo ships Southampton Castle and Good Hope Castle, both built by Swan Hunter.

The Southampton Castle was launched at Wallsend on 20 October 1964 and named by Princess Alexandra. She was delivered in May 1965. 13,152 grt, 11,200 tdw. 592 feet 9 inches overall. Twin screw with two 8 cylinder Wallsend-Sulzer RD90 diesel engines, she was the fastest cargo ship in the world at the time of delivery, achieving the 25 knots needed for the new service on two-thirds power.

After the new service was introduced the pre-war Capetown Castle operated the Extra Service for a while, with a 16 day run from Southampton to Cape Town via Madeira, calling sometimes at Ascesion, St Helena or Walvis Bay. There was insufficiant demand for this operation and in 1967 it was decided to convert the two cargo ships to each carry 12 passengers for Ascension and St Helena. The allocation of the accommodation was controlled by the Government of St Helena. Southampton Castle made her first southward passenger carrying departure on 1 December 1967.

Southampton Castle's normal route was Southampton - the Atlantic Islands - Cape Town - Port Elizabeth - East London - Durban and return. She was scheduled to arrive in Durban sixteen and a half days after leaving Southampton.

In 1977 the mail contract was terminated. Container ships took over. Southampton Castle was laid up in Southampton and sold the following year to Costa as the Franca C and I believe reverted to being an all cargo ship. She was scrapped in China in 1984.

Hope this helps

Fred
 

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Fred thanks for the info .It was in 1967 we joined Southamton castle from Southamton to St Helena via Assension Island.
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Steve
 

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Great information there Fred - thanks. Did she call at Ascension & St. Helena on the return trip as well?
Don't happen to have an old timetable tucked away somewhere would you?
 

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The two ships made two calls in each direction every seven weeks. Must have made forward planning an interesting exercise for the islanders.

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I was two years in GOOD HOPE CASTLE from 1974 to 1976. I joined her in Bilbao where I stood by for several months towards the end of her year-long refit following a serious fire at sea which caused her to be abandoned and drifting for over a week. What a mess! Although the two ships only carried 12 cabin passengers, we could carry another 48 on deck between Ascension & St. Helena. When Union-Castle sold all the passenger ships in 1978, the run was taken over by Curnow Shipping with the 3,150 gross ton RMS ST, HELENA which was built by the Burrard Drydock Company, Vancouver in 1963 as the coastal ferry NORTHLAND PRINCE. In 1978 the ship was converted to a Class 1 long-haul passenger ship with a capacity for 76 cabin pasengers and a total of 110 (The surplus being carried in dormitary style accommodation on the boat deck). The deck passengers were carried between Ascension & St. Helena. The run began in Avonmouth and went down to Cape Town. We called at Tristan da Cunha once a year. I was in this ship from 1979 until 1990 when I transferred with all my shipmates to the new ship of the same name which carried 132 passengers and is still running today. The old ST. HELENA was my favourite ship, though not a great beauty, we had some interesting times including 13 months in the Falklands 1982 83, first as a minehunter supports ship to the Task Force, escorting HMS BRECEON & LEDBURY down and back. Then a year as a mini-troopship Port Stanley, Grytviken, Ascension Island. Then we nearly lost the ship in a serious engineroom fire in the doldrums on Halloween Night, 1984. We drifted for a week and were towed for a week to Dakar by Geman salvage tug FAIRPLAY IX and spent a month repairing and then went back on our normal run again. The two ST. HELENA's were the last British ocean passenger liners in service, I don't mean the odd liner run by big ships such as QUEEN ELIZABETH 2, but a constant year-in-year-out service to take care of St. Helena Island which has no airport. That is all to end soon as an airport is being built there and when it is finished the shipping service will probably come to an end.
 

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Fred thank you regarding your reply regarding if i obtained information on the Southampton Castle. I am in the process of ordering prints from Graham white in the UK and some articles from Ship Builders magazine.
 

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rms said:
Fred thank you regarding your reply regarding if i obtained information on the Southampton Castle. I am in the process of ordering prints from Graham white in the UK and some articles from Ship Builders magazine.
Hello RMS, I know it very cheeky of me, but would it be possible to purchase copies from you in due course?
 

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Union Castle.

I have 20 postcards of castle ships,old ships pic's taken before 1950. samples in my gallery if interested ,name ship, if I have will post.
 

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Costa was thinking of turning them into cruise ships, but turned away from that ideia because of the high cost of the project.
They could have followed the same path as the PORT SIDNEY/MELBOURNE and they probably could have survived into the 21th century.

It was not to be, so they remained cargo ships until the end.

Best regards from Lisbon,
Paulo Mestre

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Hi Steve
SOUTHAMPTON CASTLE was sister of GOOD HOPE CASTLE built in
england in 1965 they were reefer carriers.
They were sold to Italian COSTA LINE in 1978 and they served this Italian owners until the end of 1980 under the name FRANCA C and PAOLA C.
they were broken up under this name.
GP
 
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