David,St Andrews Fish Dock Hull in the 70's ha two TID, that were voith synder propelled. The names for the two tugs escape me?? Memory???
No John, that would be duplicating already publish work.as the "chant" tankers were constructed in a similar manner, would you be doing a book on them in the future?
During my research for the book I was in touch with a retired Marine Superintendent from East African Railways & Harbours Company at the time based in Dar-Es-Salem, (Unfortunately his name mislaid) and he provided me with much the same information as you have. I also have the same image in the book.Does anyone have information on the TID tugs built by Malta Dockyard in the late 1960s?
Same hull design but powered by a Kelvin diesel and a modern funnel.
3 were delivered to East African Railways and Harbours and used in Dar es Salaam
Originally named TID1, 2 and 3 they were renamed Rufiji, Ruvuma and Ruvu.
Others of the same design were delivered to West Africa I believe.
The design, orders and supervision were provided by the Crown Agents, Millbank acting for the African clients.
Malta Maritime Museum has a very good model, about 1/10th scale. Tucked away in an upstairs store room when I last visited, not on public display.
Thanks, it is me, Dick Goodey you are quoting.During my research for the book I was in touch with a retired Marine Superintendent from East African Railways & Harbours Company ant the time based in Dar-Es-Salem, (Unfortunately his name mislaid) and he provided me with much the same information as you have. I also have the same image in the book.
“The specification for the tugs was drawn up by Crown Agents. I am not sure if they also provided the design, but from memory the lines were the same as drawings and photos I have seen of the original T.I.D.’s. I believe that West German and Netherlands yards tendered for the job, but the order was awarded to Malta Dockyard. They were built 1967’ish, with Kelvin T8 engines on a T.I.D. hull design with fairly modern funnel, basic unglazed wheelhouse and dealt with the barges at the port. Until 1970 they were known as Malta T.I.D. 1, 2 and 3. During 1970 modifications were carried out, the bulwarks were removed due to extensive damage, leaving just a 75 x 75mm angle toe board and the transom was rounded off each side with a 300mm radius. After modifications T.I.D. 1 became RUFIJI, 2- RUVU and 3- RUVUMA (all Tanzanian rivers). They gave good service during my time in Dar, but I have no knowledge of them post 1973”.
Morning Dick, good to hear from you again. I thought the text looked familiar.Thanks, it is me, Dick Goodey you are quoting.
Looking forward to reading your book Bill. Do you have a definitive definition of TID?Morning Dick, good to hear from you again. I though the text looked familiar.
I suffered a PC malfunction a while back and lost a fair bit. Fortunately I had several backups so with a new PC in place it was painstakingly reloaded although some files had to be updated.
Extracted from bookLooking forward to reading your book Bill. Do you have a definitive definition of TID?
Would like to know what happened to the African TIDs, east and west after 1973.
SOMERTON and SIR MILNE went south and ended their days alongside at Malahide, unfortunately submergedIn the 1950/60s the Belfast Harbour Commissioners had 3 harbour tugs 2 Tids the Sir Milne , Somerton and a diesel tug Sir Kenneth . She was built by Charles Hill in Bristol with a H and W engine . I was mate in the Sir Kenneth . Skipper in the Somerton when she was relieving the Sir K . Both the Tids were oil fuel steam tugs . Happy days .
Alex C .
Thanks Martyn,Two still alongside in Maldon, Essex, but apparently unused though under restoration.
One named TID 172, the other BRENT.
A friend took photos about June of them there.