Why were there seperate Certificates of Competency for Home Trade and Foreign Trade? What were the differences?
Sorry Keith I did not know him nor do I recollect ever meeting him and I would have haerd of him as it is a close knit group of guys.To digress, lakercapt: On the subject of tickets, I was up for Second Mates in ’58 Aberdeen with a Jim Brock who then emigrated to Canada with the firm intention of going on the Lakes. Long shot, but I wonder if you ever came across him.
When I posted this I was being fippant when I posted this comment.With a foreign going certificate you might end up on a "Baron" boat.
A home trade cerificate you would not!
Thanks for your response, lakercapt.Sorry Keith I did not know him nor do I recollect ever meeting him and I would have haerd of him as it is a close knit group of guys.
Hello Ken, I am not sure if there was any requirement for astro navigation for mates h/t. but, when I gained my masters h/t. 50 years ago, there was no K.O.P. but, for Practical Navigation, the requirements were : Amplitudes, Azimuths, Lat. by meridian alt. Posn. line + lat. by ex meridian alt. and Long by Chrom. including various visits to the Planetarium for astronomy. Practical Navigation was a much simpler paper than those for foreign going, I think it was considered by most to be the least feared of all the papers for Master H/T. I struggled more with things like Stability. Many, including myself, spent time as master outside H/T. limits on dispensation and on foreign flag vessels. Bruce.Different exam requirements and qualifying requirements. For example, astro navigation was not a home trade requirement.
I believe that some ship Masters were qualified for Pilotage Exemption in the Mersey. What did this involve?#9
"Skippers who never used charts."
Qualifications in pilotage were mandatory for pilots, wherever compulsory pilotage was imposed, several centuries before mandatory qualification was required of other mariners. In the early 19th century, the pilotage authority at Liverpool was appointed to conduct the new Board of Trade examinations. My g-g-grandfather was one of the first to hold a Board of Trade Certificate of any kind.
I remember being taught, "Reading a chart is all very well, but in pilotage even that is not good enough; because there simply isn't the time available. In pilotage, you have to know it in your head."
As to WHY there might be different kinds of certification/qualification/licence, the reason is that different voyages have different objectives, destinations, distances and hazards to be met on passage. Distance alone is not the discerning factor, although it is obviously a very important one, with geographically vast differences involved. Insurers point regularly to the high number of casualties which occur in local pilotage.
The qualifications of a Master (FG) were very different from my own in pilotage, with merely a Mate (HT) certificate .