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I was browsing the BP Tankers WEBSiteand noted the fleet vessels registered in the IOM of tonnages above25.000tdw had as a comment a crew or 25? Officers and ratings.

I am perplexed how are the watches arranged these days:-
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No ER watches all done by computer and observed by the bridge officer, here I assume 3 + master, and the engineers and ratings on day time watches/duties.
Please can you expand for this old seadog? It seems a fansinating time is had by all, and in unforeseen cir***stances-what the hell!!!
 

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When you think our little 10 -12000dwcc tramps had crews of 45 to 60, at least you always had somebody to talk to and share a tinny at the end of the watch
 

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I was browsing the BP Tankers WEBSiteand noted the fleet vessels registered in the IOM of tonnages above25.000tdw had as a comment a crew or 25? Officers and ratings.

I am perplexed how are the watches arranged these days:-
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No ER watches all done by computer and observed by the bridge officer, here I assume 3 + master, and the engineers and ratings on day time watches/duties.
Please can you expand for this old seadog? It seems a fansinating time is had by all, and in unforeseen cir***stances-what the hell!!!
The last time I set foot aboard a BP tanker was about 14 years ago and the crewing setup was usually something like this:

Master, C/O, 2/O, 2 x 3/O
Bosun, Pumpman, 3 x AB, 2 x OS
C/E, 2/E, 3/E, 4/E, J/E, Electrician
3 x Motorman
Chief Cook, 2nd Cook plus 1 Steward

Deck side the mate was a dayworker, with the other three deck officers covering the watches and 1 AB/OS per watch. The latter were usually working on deck during daylight hours and were only on the bridge in the hours of darkness/poor visibility.

Engine Dept were all on daywork as the machinery spaces are unmanned at night. The Engineers take it in turns to be on duty, that is should something go awry in the E/R then the automated alarm system sounds in their cabin and they have to nip down and deal with it.
 

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I like your terminology, nip down and deal with it?
I just dream, the major part of the crew is the engine dept. and in my day rigging and lifting heavy engine parts was usually done under the advice of the bosun, and his lads lending a hand.
In times of salvage, may I ask the question who operates the on deck and arranges the tow lines, and watches, does this make the crew officers and men multifunctional- What is in a ticket/or the many certification and proficiency tickets, these days on a modern ship- Is It an electrician/r-o/ and mobile telephone operator with a secretary to write the log?? Are we all going to hell in a hand cart? Does all the crew need to be educated and made aware of how to operate a satellite location/navigational aid in the event of taking to a lifeboat?
Are the crew just security guards in this modern day of seafaring??? this was and is all ways was the case, except in the very beginning the Master/Captain had a share in the voyage financially- either the ship or its cargo? What is next??? for tomorrows marine industry??? are we mice or men??
 

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Sorry to bother you but I have been reading your posts with great interest ... Would you by any chance happen to be my favourite offshore Health and Safety Executive inspector [retired ] ? If so, you may remember me ......Our conversations took place in the Southern North Sea gas fields sector whilst in the employ of ConocoPhillips quite a few years ago.... Mostly pertaining to our engine room service as much younger men although I myself served with Panocean and Ellerman City liners ..... Regards, Martin Shiplee
 

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Good Day ....

Sorry to bother you but I have been reading your posts with great interest ... Would you by any chance happen to be my favourite offshore Health and Safety Executive inspector [retired ] ? If so, you may remember me ......Our conversations took place in the Southern North Sea gas fields sector whilst in the employ of ConocoPhillips quite a few years ago.... Mostly pertaining to our engine room service as much younger men although I myself served with Panocean and Ellerman City liners ..... Regards, Martin Shiplee
Martin, have you checked your personal messages-I forgot to mention Conoco SNS at Threddlethorpe terminal, and the offices and satellite teams based there.
 

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I joined BP Tankers in 1971 as a General Purpose Seaman (Gp1) we worked both deck and Engine room.
Chief Petty Officer
2 Petty Officers
9 Gp1's
1 Gp Boy.
Petty Officers worked Month about Deck and Engine room.
Gp'1s 3 on Deck, 3 Engine room, 3 On Watches, one week on each.
The same amount of crew on a 25,000 ton vessel as a 272,000 ton.
 

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My first 250,000 tanker had a crew of 32 that was in early seventies gradually over time this was reduced to 18 in the late eighties. The first to go was the catering officer followed by a steward etc after that I will have to search my grey matter which will be no easy task.
 
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