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Greetings. I was with Trinders in 61. Ship initially Galway (engineer) Joinned her in Wellington, transfered to Ashburton at Cardiff, three engineers flew to fiji to join Ashburton. We wound up in Noumea. Ship had major engine problems. Thay had started the engine with water in a unit, 13 deg damage on engine. Also had cracks on cylinders. Ass super eng, 3 Eng and my self joined it (as volunters) super and 3 eng must have been arounds your time. Fiji to panama, broke down enery day, took 29 days, and short of water and food. 12 days in canal for maintenance, US during day, us after nights. Towed through canal (Pilots comment, great siren, not much else) Panama to Liverpool with no stopage, not allowed to stop until we had a tug on. To the tyne for engine repalrs. three months to have engine fixed the sold to Manners of HongKong. Met a number of Trinders older people at that period, can remember a few but cannot remember the Kaimata. Mind, we didnt see other company ships very often.
I believe Trinders ships had a name change around late 1958, or so. Changed to Irish names and understand, when P and O took over the ships around 1972 at least three, which were the Galway, Donnegal(?) and Antrim had a name change to P O names.
As far as I know the Australin (?) ships carried on under their own names.
J Boyde
As far as I know the Australin (?) ships carried on under their own names.
J Boyde
Thanks for your replies. I joined Trinder, Anderson's in January,54 and left in Nov.58. George Fairlem was Superintendent Engineer and his assistant was a Dutchman. My first ship was the Kaimata and I stayed with her for two years. She was later renamed the Antrim when transferred to the newly revived Avenue Shipping Co. You mentioned the Ashburton, if I remember correctly it had a B&W four-stroke and steam auxiliaries. Did you meet up with Alan Chick or George Abbinnet at all ? Sid Le Quesne
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I served as a deckie on Antrim for nine months 1971-72 and Donegal for 5 months 1972-73. Antrim became Strathinch and after a few other name changes was broken up in 1982 as Singapore 2. Donegal became Strathirvine and went to the breakers in 1980 as Athina. Captains on Antrim were Murray and Luck and Bosun was Wally Green. Donegals bosun was Fraser. Great ships to work on with good crews.
I served as a deckie on Antrim for nine months 1971-72 and Donegal for 5 months 1972-73. Antrim became Strathinch and after a few other name changes was broken up in 1982 as Singapore 2. Donegal became Strathirvine and went to the breakers in 1980 as Athina. Captains on Antrim were Murray and Luck and Bosun was Wally Green. Donegals bosun was Fraser. Great ships to work on with good crews.
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Yes I do remember the Ashburton, have a photo of it above my computor. I, and two others flew from the UK to Noumea to work on the engine. They tried to start the engine with a bit too much water in the cylinder, back some 13 deg on a unit. We spent a lot of work on the heads before we got away from Fiji. Were restricted with speed with the damage unit. We broke down every day until we got to Panama, where they towed us through the canal and the US worked on the engines by day, and us on the night, well intill we went to the dog house. New heads but on after 12 days work, plus a few bits. Still on restrictions, no stops across the atlantic but not allowed to stop until we had a tug on at Liverpool. Spent three months with her on the Tyne where ther pulled half the engine out so the shaft can be relined. we were not alowed to work, unions etc. Sold to Manners when the engine work had been done'
Jim B (egg)
Yes I do remember the Ashburton, have a photo of it above my computor. I, and two others flew from the UK to Noumea to work on the engine. They tried to start the engine with a bit too much water in the cylinder, back some 13 deg on a unit. We spent a lot of work on the heads before we got away from Fiji. Were restricted with speed with the damage unit. We broke down every day until we got to Panama, where they towed us through the canal and the US worked on the engines by day, and us on the night, well intill we went to the dog house. New heads but on after 12 days work, plus a few bits. Still on restrictions, no stops across the atlantic but not allowed to stop until we had a tug on at Liverpool. Spent three months with her on the Tyne where ther pulled half the engine out so the shaft can be relined. we were not alowed to work, unions etc. Sold to Manners when the engine work had been done'
Jim B (egg)
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Trinder Anderson
Hi Burwah.
Hi there Burwah.I didnt sail with Trinder Anderson,bu with
the Australind Shipping Company on the Ajana.Im after
collecting Company Buttons,and all I need is a Trinder
Anderson button,as Ive been informed that Trinder Anderson
Bethyl Gwynn,The Avenue Shipping Company,and the Australind
Co all had the same buttons on the uniforms,even though the
Australind had different funnel markings.I hope that anyone who
reads this post and can help me in my search,Ill be most grateful.
Dave Williams(R583900)
Hi Burwah.
Hi there Burwah.I didnt sail with Trinder Anderson,bu with
the Australind Shipping Company on the Ajana.Im after
collecting Company Buttons,and all I need is a Trinder
Anderson button,as Ive been informed that Trinder Anderson
Bethyl Gwynn,The Avenue Shipping Company,and the Australind
Co all had the same buttons on the uniforms,even though the
Australind had different funnel markings.I hope that anyone who
reads this post and can help me in my search,Ill be most grateful.
Dave Williams(R583900)
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Dave,
I've just read your comment on sailing on the Ajana, I was on her in 1961 - 1963. The Australind Shipping Company was actually owned by Trinder Anderson, so to sail on the Ajana is indeed sailing with Trinder Anderson. (I have some company buttons, they feature on them the 'hungry goose' flag.)
Dave,
I've just read your comment on sailing on the Ajana, I was on her in 1961 - 1963. The Australind Shipping Company was actually owned by Trinder Anderson, so to sail on the Ajana is indeed sailing with Trinder Anderson. (I have some company buttons, they feature on them the 'hungry goose' flag.)
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Hi my Brother Bob sailed on the Ajana around 1953 either as 2nd Mate or Mate not really sure. I was in Shell Tankers as an apprentice when we passed in the Medi he was outward out to Australia ,I was homeward bound to sit for my 2nd mates certificate
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I was on the Antrim in 1971 and the Armadale and Australind in 1972 as navigating officer cadet.
Phil
I was on the Antrim in 1971 and the Armadale and Australind in 1972 as navigating officer cadet.
Phil
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When in 1971 where you on Antrim Phil? I joined her in Rotterdam in November 1971 , Captain Murry in command. Did Euro ports, Morrocco then down to Indian Ocean Islands and over to Townsville. Rejoined next trip, Captain Luck in command. I was on deck.Wally Green bosun. Dave
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Small world
I joined in Rotterdam too
I was 16, my first trip and flew into Rotterdam in the middle of the night, arriving in the early hours with only a night watchman awake
I was tall, skinny and dark haired, but so was the other cadet Dick Clarke.
We were in Madagascar for Christmas, then we went to Reunion Island then over to Townsville in Oz to pick up lead and copper ingots. I remember the lead slabs were about 3 feet square and 9 inches deep, but weighed 2 tons each. I can't remember whether it was on the Antrim or the Armadale because we went to Townsville on both, but heading back from Townsville to Durban for bunkers we hit a big storm. The dunnage securing the lead slabs started to give way in the hold and the lead slabs were polishing between layers and then started sliding free. It was too rough to enter the hatch via the deck, but fortunately we could access the hold via a bulkhead hatch in the engine room. Captain murray was concerned that the lead slabs would get up a head of steam and puncture the ships hull. He and I had some whiskey (which I hated) and then went through the bulkhead to resecure the slabs with dunnage that had come free. I think I was too young to be as scared as I should have been because slabs really were sliding around. But we managed to do it, I think there were only a few loose slabs, but it had to be done.
Went ashore in Townsville with Wally and deck boy whose nickname was 'Mouse'. Went in Woolworths and bought a jigsaw puzzle
I have a photo of them somewhere and the ship.
Captain Murray was a strange fellow, he used to potter around the bridge area wearing nothing but a pair of tartan shorts. He told me off for socialising with the 'crew'. It wasn't a lot of fun in the officer's mess
Wally was a really nice guy, he was kind to me, but he liked a few sherbets as I remember
Used to be a big deal arriving in port and waiting for the agent to bring the mail. Must be a different world nowadays with internet etc. Container ships were only just starting to appear at that time, meaning only 24 hours in port (glad they were after my time). I remember spending 2 whole weeks in New Orleans on one trip. And 130F in the shade in Jeddah.
I did a trip on the Armadale in 1972 (also captain Murray) when it was only about 18 months old. Beautiful ship, and air conditioned which was amazing then. Dick Clarke lost a finger when trying to steady a hatch beam and was flown home after hospital treatment. It came as shock to me to find out that the Armadale was abandoned by it's crew after an explosion and fire in 1989.
I was caught at sea in Hurricane Agnes in June 1972 and got to Darwin in Oz after it had been flattened by Cyclone Tracy in 1974. All in all, on reflection, a seafaring life was a lot more risky than it actually seemed at the time
I was with BP Tankers between 1975/6 but gave up the sea to get married. Only 5 years at sea but they were some of the happiest and most memorable years of my life. I can remember most of it with great clarity, but don't ask me what I had for lunch yesterday
I can't quite place your name but I'm certain I would recognise a photo of you from that time.
Phil
I joined in Rotterdam too
I was 16, my first trip and flew into Rotterdam in the middle of the night, arriving in the early hours with only a night watchman awake
I was tall, skinny and dark haired, but so was the other cadet Dick Clarke.
We were in Madagascar for Christmas, then we went to Reunion Island then over to Townsville in Oz to pick up lead and copper ingots. I remember the lead slabs were about 3 feet square and 9 inches deep, but weighed 2 tons each. I can't remember whether it was on the Antrim or the Armadale because we went to Townsville on both, but heading back from Townsville to Durban for bunkers we hit a big storm. The dunnage securing the lead slabs started to give way in the hold and the lead slabs were polishing between layers and then started sliding free. It was too rough to enter the hatch via the deck, but fortunately we could access the hold via a bulkhead hatch in the engine room. Captain murray was concerned that the lead slabs would get up a head of steam and puncture the ships hull. He and I had some whiskey (which I hated) and then went through the bulkhead to resecure the slabs with dunnage that had come free. I think I was too young to be as scared as I should have been because slabs really were sliding around. But we managed to do it, I think there were only a few loose slabs, but it had to be done.
Went ashore in Townsville with Wally and deck boy whose nickname was 'Mouse'. Went in Woolworths and bought a jigsaw puzzle
I have a photo of them somewhere and the ship.
Captain Murray was a strange fellow, he used to potter around the bridge area wearing nothing but a pair of tartan shorts. He told me off for socialising with the 'crew'. It wasn't a lot of fun in the officer's mess
Wally was a really nice guy, he was kind to me, but he liked a few sherbets as I remember
Used to be a big deal arriving in port and waiting for the agent to bring the mail. Must be a different world nowadays with internet etc. Container ships were only just starting to appear at that time, meaning only 24 hours in port (glad they were after my time). I remember spending 2 whole weeks in New Orleans on one trip. And 130F in the shade in Jeddah.
I did a trip on the Armadale in 1972 (also captain Murray) when it was only about 18 months old. Beautiful ship, and air conditioned which was amazing then. Dick Clarke lost a finger when trying to steady a hatch beam and was flown home after hospital treatment. It came as shock to me to find out that the Armadale was abandoned by it's crew after an explosion and fire in 1989.
I was caught at sea in Hurricane Agnes in June 1972 and got to Darwin in Oz after it had been flattened by Cyclone Tracy in 1974. All in all, on reflection, a seafaring life was a lot more risky than it actually seemed at the time
I was with BP Tankers between 1975/6 but gave up the sea to get married. Only 5 years at sea but they were some of the happiest and most memorable years of my life. I can remember most of it with great clarity, but don't ask me what I had for lunch yesterday
I can't quite place your name but I'm certain I would recognise a photo of you from that time.
Phil
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The company was still called Trinder Anderson between 1971-3 during my cadetship with them. Though I remember the ships I was on being on charter to P&O cargo and SEAL.
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P&O became mangers (later owners) and we flew P&O flag. SEAL was Scandinavian East Africa Line and we were on charter to them.Still have my case from trip with their sticker stuck on it!! I have pics of mouse and Wally and others in my gallery. Will give you a PM tonight. Great to find another person from that trip Phil. My nickname was aussie which you might remember as no one called me Dave.
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Phil picture in my gallery of me, galley boy and cadet at Reunion Island. Is that you or Dick??
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D'oh!
When I click on a photo in your gallery it tells me I have to be a registered user to view photos. I am registered and logged in. I tried logging out and logging in again but still got the same error.
My eyes aren't that good so it's hard to see much on the mini images
Ossie rings a bell (as in Peter Osgood of Chelsea), I don't remember you being Australian though?
I had SEAL banner sticker on my suitcase too, think it may still be in the loft
Phil
When I click on a photo in your gallery it tells me I have to be a registered user to view photos. I am registered and logged in. I tried logging out and logging in again but still got the same error.
My eyes aren't that good so it's hard to see much on the mini images
Ossie rings a bell (as in Peter Osgood of Chelsea), I don't remember you being Australian though?
I had SEAL banner sticker on my suitcase too, think it may still be in the loft
Phil
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Will give you an email with pics.. Dave (aussie)
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Tried emailing you Phil, wont go through will send you a private message with my email.
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