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#### dcm

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Try this for size

does that wet anyone's whistle at all

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#### Victor J. Croasdale

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Hi YM-Mundrabilla,
The notes of a whistle on air and on steam will be different.
The fundamental wavelength of the sound will be a mix of integer fractions of the the whistle's length. Frequency x wavelength = sonic velocity. The sonic velocity of air and steam are different. The speed of sound of 20 deg C air is about 345 m/s and is roughly proportional to the the square root of the absolute temperature. (it is proportional for an ideal gas and equals the square root of Gamma x R x T/M) The speed of sound in steam varies with both the temperature and the pressure. The fundamental frequency will be different and the mix of harmonics will be different.

#### YM-Mundrabilla

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Hi YM-Mundrabilla,
The notes of a whistle on air and on steam will be different.
The fundamental wavelength of the sound will be a mix of integer fractions of the the whistle's length. Frequency x wavelength = sonic velocity. The sonic velocity of air and steam are different. The speed of sound of 20 deg C air is about 345 m/s and is roughly proportional to the the square root of the absolute temperature. (it is proportional for an ideal gas and equals the square root of Gamma x R x T/M) The speed of sound in steam varies with both the temperature and the pressure. The fundamental frequency will be different and the mix of harmonics will be different.
Thanks Victor.
Much appreciated - so I didn't imagine it.
In all matters steam it seems that compressed air is a poor but, these days, often necessity. Certainly better than nothing!
Thanks again.
Geoff (YM) (Wave)

#### Victor J. Croasdale

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Hi Stephen,

Air and steam behave very differently. The sound will be different with air or steam. I posted a fuller (but not complete) explanation lower in this thread.

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