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Hi,
My grandad was injured and killed in an accident on SS "Blackwater" 4 Jul 44.

I can't find any information on this Ship.

Can anyone help please?
 

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Wow

Thank you.

Our family hasn't been able to trace her or anything. Gives me something now to go on with trying to find out what happened on her that led to Grandads death

Any pointers?
 

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Thank you.
Would you believe we've been looking on and off for about 3
Yrs? Just show that a Naval history beats RAF and RA knowledge hands down
 

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John Kelly shipowners in Belfast . They had a fleet of coasters that carried coal .to Northern Ireland ports . One of their ships was called the Blackwater . I hope this may be useful .
Alex C .
 

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Hi Binnacle
We have his War Grave details, and have paid our respects in Bayeaux where he was buried.
Its trying to unearth the details about his death rather than family lore. Unfortunately no one spoke over his life, or death and those who may have known are now dead.
 

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Thank you the previous post has identified AS Blackwater. now to try and find out about the "accident" that claimed his life
 

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The crew agreement and log for 1944 for the Blackwater, Official Number 123129, is held at the National Archives under reference BT381/2731. It may, or may not, include July 1944. There's only one way to find out...
Also, under reference BT389/4/190 is the merchant shipping movement card for the ship. Here: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
Another image for the ship is here: http://www.southampton.gov.uk/arts-heritage/southampton-archives/plimsoll.aspx
Lastly, here you'll find her convoy details: http://www.convoyweb.org.uk/hague/index.html which means you might not need the BT389 reference.

Should keep you busy for a while...

Dave W
 

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Thanks Dave,
I've downloaded the stuff from NA..only upto 1941 unfortunately. I also went onto the convoy web. Blackwater sailed the day after my grandfather's accident so it obviously wasn't damaged. I think I'll have to try and access his military record,
But its been fascinating finding out about this Ship .

Thank you for your help
 

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The reference BT381/2731 is not downloadable from the National Archives. You'll have to visit in person or have someone view the do***ent for you. If the log has survived and is in the records, it will probably contain an entry about the accident you're interested in.

Dave W
 

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Right...thanks. I did see that one it hasn't been digitised yet...I knew I'd missed one. Will try to speak to someone there
Thank you
 

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Thank you. Will let you know what I find out from N A.
Have asked for a page check on date he was killed, have his name, rank and number. Forgot to put in his Port Operating Company...but hopefully will be able to find out some more.
Once again, many thanks x
 

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Hello,
I am a latecomer to this thread (and a newcomer to ship nostalgia).

The Captain of the Blackwater in July '44 was a great uncle of mine, Thomas B. Mitchell (I believe he was the youngest captain of John Kellys at the time). It is folklore in our family that he brought the first cargo of ammunition over to the D-Day beaches. My father, who is living, sailed with him occaisionally after the war. I asked him about the accident in question but he said that Tom had never mentioned it (people did not necessarily 'open up' in those days).


Neil R.
 
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