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#43 ·
Waiting for the No.1 outside Brunswick, opposite the Seven Steps on a wet winter night.
When the bus came along the conductor allowed a few on and then put the chain across.

"How long will the next bus be?"
"21 feet 6 inches, same as this one, Ha Ha ha."
"And will it have a sh1thouse on the back same as this one?"
 
#44 ·
I did a stint as 2nd mate on the buses in Liverpool while awaiting the results of my 2nd mates exam, was an experience some very enjoyable.
If my memory serves me correctly buses were 29ft rear enders, atlantean ones cant remember the length. Routes I was 2nd mate on were 6C, 40. 26 and 27, there were lots of MN folks who were there as both conductors and drivers. In the canteen we seamen and ex seamen usually sat together it was just like smoko sometimes we would be there for a couple of hrs after our shifts ended.
 
#45 ·
eldersuk said:
Waiting for the No.1 outside Brunswick, opposite the Seven Steps on a wet winter night.
When the bus came along the conductor allowed a few on and then put the chain across.

"How long will the next bus be?"
"21 feet 6 inches, same as this one, Ha Ha ha."
"And will it have a sh1thouse on the back same as this one?"
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Is this bus going to Speke?
I f***in`hope not.
 
#46 · (Edited)
Pat ????????

Pat Kennedy said:
Well just to put matters straight, there was a bus service which more or less mirrored the route of the Overhead Railway from the Pierhead to Gladstone Dock gate in Seaforth, just across the road from the Caradoc, and its neighbour, the Winifred. This was the number one bus route.
the Overhead Railway was demolished, as Barry says, in 1957, and shipped out to Japan as scrap. My first ship, the Achilles, carried a few hundred tons of it to Kobe in 1958.
The Overhead Railway had 19 stations between Dingle in the South to Seaforth and Litherland in the North. Seaforth Sands, the penultimate station was where you got off for Gladstone Dock.

There are 3 KGV Docks in the UK, London, Hull, and Glasgow. The Glasgow KGV was Blue Funnel's Scottish base, there were often three or four Blueys loading and discharging there during the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
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Hate to correct you mate , But you never got off the overhead railway at Seaforth Sands to enter the Gladstone dock ....... You enlighten the overhead at the station known as the Gladstone? to enter seaforth or Gladstone dock, When the train continued to Seaforth Sands you would have to have walked back about a kilometer to enter the Gladstone, The reason the overhead ran as far as Seaforth Sands was because you then entered the goods line that ran through Lpool docks right through to Aintree sidings and goods yard that also fed shipping. There is an old song called {Thank you very much} Which was sang by Paul McCartney,s brother with his time with the scaffold which he says he will carry the lyrics Aintree iron to his death. The overhead railway was built in a pig iron shed at Aintree sidings that produced the iron for the docker,s umbrella that i and John believe was the Aintree iron. Regards all Farmer.(Thumb) p.s. note from this diagram there was the Glastone dock were you en lighted for the gladstone dock and further on Seaforth Sands which continued to Aintree G,Day farmer. Oh i lived in Lpool for 2 years sailing with Blue Star i know i am correct.


http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/uk/liv/liverpool_lor.htm
 
#47 ·
Barrie !!!!!!!!!

Barrie Youde said:
Hi, Farmer!

Many thanks for the explanation of the origin of Red Rum! But why "murder"? The plot thickens.

As to KG5 Dock - No, Sir!- Not in Liverpool - although I think that it is right that King George the Fifth opened Gladstone Lock in 1927. For sure, he and Queen Mary opened the first Mersey Tunnel in 1934. Their statues (or busts)are there to the present day. My Mum & Dad walked through the tunnel shortly before it opened. And I think that the Princess Royal opened Seaforth Dock in 1973 - possibly on board a Blue Star ship.

G'donyer!

BY
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He liked a drink old Ginger M,Cain your guess is as good as mine cobber Farmer. (Jester)
 
#51 ·
I have just Googled Aintree Iron and there are loads of equally plausible explanations of the words.As always there is a nugget of truth in most of the reasoning,apart from the religious fanatic,and some of them are quite reasoned.The Aintree Iron and Steelworks public toilets,the shape of Aintree racecourse,the block of buildings that include the Flat Iron pub,the LFC team that included Tommy Smith(and he was just hard you should have seen him play)and the old railway tracks to Southport.However overriding all this is Mike McGears admission that he`s not going to say what it is.......maybe he made it up.I lived in the Liverpool area for 15 years both north and south and I never heard the expression used.The OHR was the dockers umbrella and I never heard the Aintree Iron and Steelworks mentioned in any of the many times it was discussed and boy was it regularly mentioned,mourned and discussed
 
#52 ·
Travelling on the overhead one fine day wearing my brand new light grey suit made to measure by Brass And Jacksons London Rd, a docker of huge proportions bumped into me, he must have been unloading carbon black,or eh says I, he gave me a look as black as the mess he made of my suit. It was a stinking hot day and he must have been p****ed of,who wouldnt be ? a quick retreat to the other end of the carriage was the my best , I took it.
 
#53 · (Edited)
Farmer said:
Hate to correct you mate , But you never got off the overhead railway at Seaforth Sands to enter the Gladstone dock ....... You enlighten the overhead at the station known as the Gladstone? to enter seaforth or Gladstone dock, When the train continued to Seaforth Sands you would have to have walked back about a kilometer to enter the Gladstone, The reason the overhead ran as far as Seaforth Sands was because you then entered the goods line that ran through Lpool docks right through to Aintree sidings and goods yard that also fed shipping. There is an old song called {Thank you very much} Which was sang by Paul McCartney,s brother with his time with the scaffold which he says he will carry the lyrics Aintree iron to his death. The overhead railway was built in a pig iron shed at Aintree sidings that produced the iron for the docker,s umbrella that i and John believe was the Aintree iron. Regards all Farmer.(Thumb) p.s. note from this diagram there was the Glastone dock were you en lighted for the gladstone dock and further on Seaforth Sands which continued to Aintree G,Day farmer. Oh i lived in Lpool for 2 years sailing with Blue Star i know i am correct.


http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/uk/liv/liverpool_lor.htm
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Well Farmer, I have to say my memory of the Overhead Railway differs from yours in this respect. We can put this down to the fact that it was fifty odd years ago, and details fade over time.
Seaforth Sands station was situated west of the junction of Rimrose Rd, Seaforth Rd, Crosby Rd South, and Knowsley Rd. When you came down the stairs and emerged into the daylight, the Caradoc and the Winifred were looking at you. Behind you was, I think, Shore Rd and the head of Gladstone Drydock, and the main gate to the docks. Gladstone Dock Station was within the dock estate and was situated between Hornby Dock and Gladstone No 2 Branch.
I travelled on the OH virtually every week for several years as a boy visiting cousins living in Seaforth, and we usually got off at Seaforth Sands and walked East up Seaforth Rd, but occasionally we went to the Seaforth and Litherland station and walked back from there.
By the time I went to sea, the OH had been closed down and most of it was gone, so when joining a ship in the Gladstone, I only ever got the number one bus to Seaforth, getting off close to where Seaforth Sands station had been and walking down Shore Rd to the gate. There is a very good photo of Seaforth Sands station with Gladstone Dock in the background at this link;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/5488291912/
Best Regards,
Pat(Thumb)
 
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#54 ·
aintree iron

alan ward said:
I have just Googled Aintree Iron and there are loads of equally plausible explanations of the words.As always there is a nugget of truth in most of the reasoning,apart from the religious fanatic,and some of them are quite reasoned.The Aintree Iron and Steelworks public toilets,the shape of Aintree racecourse,the block of buildings that include the Flat Iron pub,the LFC team that included Tommy Smith(and he was just hard you should have seen him play)and the old railway tracks to Southport.However overriding all this is Mike McGears admission that he`s not going to say what it is.......maybe he made it up.I lived in the Liverpool area for 15 years both north and south and I never heard the expression used.The OHR was the dockers umbrella and I never heard the Aintree Iron and Steelworks mentioned in any of the many times it was discussed and boy was it regularly mentioned,mourned and discussed
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was the Aintree Iron The British Legion or the railway sidings next to the race course?
 
#56 · (Edited)
ALAN your correct many theory,s

alan ward said:
I have just Googled Aintree Iron and there are loads of equally plausible explanations of the words.As always there is a nugget of truth in most of the reasoning,apart from the religious fanatic,and some of them are quite reasoned.The Aintree Iron and Steelworks public toilets,the shape of Aintree racecourse,the block of buildings that include the Flat Iron pub,the LFC team that included Tommy Smith(and he was just hard you should have seen him play)and the old railway tracks to Southport.However overriding all this is Mike McGears admission that he`s not going to say what it is.......maybe he made it up.I lived in the Liverpool area for 15 years both north and south and I never heard the expression used.The OHR was the dockers umbrella and I never heard the Aintree Iron and Steelworks mentioned in any of the many times it was discussed and boy was it regularly mentioned,mourned and discussed
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And this is mine The Aintree Iron the OHR as for the dockers umbrella? G,Day farmer. http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=...0.1562.0j9j1.10.0...0.0.SYb8HcsRZLA&biw=1280&bih=855&sei=Tg_yT_efH5Cp8QPG-Oz7DA
 
#57 ·
Great pic Todd

todd said:
As the subject of the 'Dockers Umbrella' came up I wondered if anyone would be interested in the attached photo. Notice the 'smog' and the colour of the building.

Jim
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Thanks that was where the Lpool dockers would stand to get out of the rain that was the original Docker,s Umbrella. Farmer.
 
#58 ·
15yrs North @ South Alan

alan ward said:
I have just Googled Aintree Iron and there are loads of equally plausible explanations of the words.As always there is a nugget of truth in most of the reasoning,apart from the religious fanatic,and some of them are quite reasoned.The Aintree Iron and Steelworks public toilets,the shape of Aintree racecourse,the block of buildings that include the Flat Iron pub,the LFC team that included Tommy Smith(and he was just hard you should have seen him play)and the old railway tracks to Southport.However overriding all this is Mike McGears admission that he`s not going to say what it is.......maybe he made it up.I lived in the Liverpool area for 15 years both north and south and I never heard the expression used.The OHR was the dockers umbrella and I never heard the Aintree Iron and Steelworks mentioned in any of the many times it was discussed and boy was it regularly mentioned,mourned and discussed
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You never heard the expression Docker,s Umbrella ?????? we all learn something new everyday cobber Farmer.[=P]
 
#59 ·
the boathouse

anyone remember this.I was in this pub when I sailed with headline in the seventies.England v Germany.Germany won the game.Being with a bunch of Jocks we were teasing the barman.Got thrown out.
When we returned the next day the gaffer gave us all tickets for the Everton v Liverpool game at goodison.He was an Evertonian and the tickets were for the Gladys road end.Great game,but just my luck it was 0-0.some great times in this wonderful Port.Some great pubs on the dock road
 
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