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General Baquedano(Chilean training ship) at Auckland, c.1930
There's a book titled "Mate In Sail" by Capt. James Gaby, published in Artarmon, Australia in 1974, that starts with the author's eighteen month's cadetship in her. It is a well written and well illustrated book with four pictures of life aboard this ship and a two page reproduction of a painting of her. Some of this book can be found here: http://www.nzmaritime.co.nz/amokura3.htm Here's a Wikipeda entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZS_Amokura Regards, Stein.
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Saintfield/Stein, thankyou for those helpful comments and info. Quite right about no NZ navy as such in the 1920's--it's Friday night after a hard week of housepainting. Naturally my mind is a bit muddled with paint fumes and such, and my last 2 remaining brain cells each think they are alone. Stein, what an excellent site--half the fun of getting it wrong is being led to good sites of information. Many thanks,
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I'll dare say this is the Chilean training ship General Baquedano built in 1898 on the lines of a steam-corvette by Armstrong-Whitworth. She did have trysail gaffs on fore and main not to be seen clearly in this photo, but they must have been etched out by the light? - I believe I see the furled trysail on the fore beginning to edge outwards on the gaff just beneath the foreyard. Study the picture 1/3 down on this page and say you agree: http://www.colcap.cl/Colegio/Historia/historia.html Here she is on a visit down under: http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Image\2334&format=print She had triple exp. engines developing 1500 ihp., giving her a speed under steam of 12 knots. She was rigged with single topgallants, and may have been reduced to a barquentine in later life. Armament was four 4.7 inch guns and four 6-pounders. If I got the Spanish translation right she was broken up in 1959 after having served as a stationary schoolship for some time. Regards, Stein.
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I have that book Stein, the first of the 2 water colours you mention looks more like a top sail schooner rig but it may not be the ship that he started out in, as I can't find a title for either picture at the moment.
It's a while since I read the book but do remember enjoying it very much and can highly recommend it to anyone.
It's a while since I read the book but do remember enjoying it very much and can highly recommend it to anyone.
Hi Sister Eleff, you may not have noticed that there's been a mixup here, the above ship is not the Amokura, but rather the General Baquedano, which most certainly was barque rigged as shown.
The book by James Gaby was great, and the introductory chapter was perfect. There was no two watercolours though, but rather a single oil printed on two pages, page 24 and 25, and once again the distinction between topsail schooner and barquentine is difficult as she had but a single doubling and no royal. I'd most certainly call the Amokura a barquentine though, as she needed her squaresail on all points of sailing, no gaff on the fore, not much in the way of stays to put sails on, the foresail as well as the single topsail having reef points and thus showing how much they were needed. Regards, Stein.
The book by James Gaby was great, and the introductory chapter was perfect. There was no two watercolours though, but rather a single oil printed on two pages, page 24 and 25, and once again the distinction between topsail schooner and barquentine is difficult as she had but a single doubling and no royal. I'd most certainly call the Amokura a barquentine though, as she needed her squaresail on all points of sailing, no gaff on the fore, not much in the way of stays to put sails on, the foresail as well as the single topsail having reef points and thus showing how much they were needed. Regards, Stein.
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