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Longview Victory ?

Longview Victory ?

An unknown ship at the Red Hook Grain Terminal in Red Hook, Brooklyn, NY on 2nd July 1957. Edit: Possibly Longview Victory on a charter to States Marine Lines.

Source: http://www.northriversailny.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/red-hook-container-terminal/

See also: The Red Hook Grain Terminal ( Youtube video ) and The Loujaine in Red Hook, Brooklyn ( Youtube video ), which is where the above picture was taken in 1957. This grain terminal is now abandoned and neglected but in its own right still interesting.

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Definitely a Victory ship, possibly Central Gulf?
Last week my wife and I toured the museum ship Red Oak Victory which is moored in Richmond, California. She's in pretty sad condition and little maintenance seems to be getting accomplished. I noticed some holes in the deck on the bridge wing which I found disconcerting. The Jeremiah O'Brien (Liberty ship) is moored near Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco and is in much better condition the last time I saw her. Her location near the tourist attractions is definitely beneficial in attracting tourists and money from visitors and of course the efforts of the many volunteers. The Red Oak's location is far from ideal as she's moored far from any tourist attractions and her appearance shows it. It all comes down to money as it takes a lot of it to maintain one of these old ships. The Jeremiah is in good enough condition that she steams around the bay with a ship load of paying tourists from time to time whereas the Red Oak has never been underway under her own power since she was laid up after Vietnam.
My first ship out of school was the Mercer Victory in 1966 so it was interesting and a trip down memory lane to tour the Red Oak Victory. They're all basically the same with some minor changes. I remember piloting an MSTS Victory sometime around 1975, but this was the first time I'd been aboard a Victory since then.
 

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Thank you very much Wallace for your suggestion. I was thinking of a Victory ship of States Marine Lines, but was unsure.

Also the preserved Victory ship, Lane Victory is far from any tourist attractions in San Pedro. I was there last year, but didn’t go to see her. She was berthed too far away for the little time I had in San Pedro. I saw and photographed her from the sea side. She appeared to be well maintained and in good condition.

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I haven't seen the Lane Victory, but she seems to have a better group of volunteers maintaining her. They steam her out with paying guests on board which is beneficial in raising funds, and they seem to have a dedicated group of volunteers working on her as does the Jeremiah O'Brien. The Lane Victory is also used for filming movies from time to time which has to be beneficial.
When the Jeremiah O'Brien steamed back to Normandy in 1994, three museum ships were supposed to form a convoy and sail back together. Only one vessel ultimately made the trip and that was of course the Jeremiah O'Brien. There's a wonderful book about the voyage to Normandy:
https://www.amazon.com/Appointment-Normandy-Walter-W-Jaffee/dp/0963758640/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=appointment+normandy&qid=1582995910&s=books&sr=1-1
 

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Looks like a Victory ship chartered by States Marine Lines. There were dozens of them over the years. Central Gulf is also possible, though if I remember right CG's Victory ships had been lengthened which this ship had not been and I think their hailing port was New Orleans while this one's is New York. With a little imagination and using a strong magnifying glass this might be the Jefferson City Victory of Victory Carriers Inc. SML charted Victory Carriers ships many times. Another possibility might be Victory Carriers' Northwestern Victory, though I don't believe it is that ship as the name does not appear to be long enough. I did see the Northwestern Victory while it was chartered to SML in 1965, for what little that is worth.
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Yes William 'Longview Victory' she certainly is, on the careful zoom.

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Thank you Ozzie, William, David and Wallace.

The prefix seems to consist of 8 or 9 letters, so if Longview Victory was chartered to States Marine Lines in 1957. this ship is a good possibility.

Wallace, thank you also for the link. In 1994, when Jeremiah O'Brien returned to Normandy and Europe, I became aware of this ship. Her berth, back then, was at Pier 3 in historic Fort Mason. In 1998, I came to San Francisco to see Jeremiah O*Brien and found her at Pier 32 on the Embarcadero. A few years later, in 2001, I was again there to see her. This time she had now been moved to Pier 45 in Fisherman's Wharf.

Of the three locations, I think, Fisherman's Wharf is the better one. Fort Mason was also a good location, mainly due to its importance in WW II, but less accessible than Fisherman's Wharf for casual visitors.

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Longview Victory, in 1957, possibly chartered to States Marine Lines ( a Shipspotting photo ) and looking much like the one in this picture. So if no objections, I'll move this picture to the cargo ships gallery as Longview Victory and add a question mark.

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I agree that Pier 45 at Fisherman's Wharf is the best location. The museum submarine USS Pampanito is also moored at Pier 45 so they complement one another.
A lot of swell comes in the Golden Gate at Fort Mason which makes for a difficult mooring. I recall bringing a full load of Datsun cars with a Columbia Steamship C-2 back from Japan and docking at Fort Mason to discharge. We were rolling over 10 degrees at the dock. One moment the lines would all be slack, and the next they'd be like piano wire. Pier 45 is far better and that's also where all the tourists are!
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Yes Wallace.

Fort Mason piers, as I also understand it, were too exposed to the weather and one of several reasons for moving her. Her temporary berth at Pier 32 was possibly chosen as Jeremiah O'Brien was built for Grace Line and this pier was used by Grace Line, when still operational as a cargo terminal.

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