For those BP Tanker specialists (A) .... what was special about the Valour and the Courage ???? ... I know but do you??
Barnsey (==D)
Barnsey (==D)
British Valour and British Courage ...special ships
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Hi agmh
I joined the Valour as 3/O in KGV, Frank Frost OM Bob Simpson C/O Bob Goodall 2/O if I remember correctly. One boiler down to the Cape with shore guys still on board, there were still problems till I paid off. A week at anchor in the bay at Rio after discharge to do repairs, good for the deck crowd, no watches, not so good for those down the pit. The local 'Ladies of the Night', as one of my colleagues at the jetties in Grangemouth called them, did some good business on board. Loved the ship itself but was probably glad when it was time to go home, some great people on board but others not so great which made it hard going at times.
Were you on board when the pump-man died? I don't think so as I don't remember any cadets at that time. He had been out on deck with me setting lines but was seriously struggling, had just come back from sick leave, so I told him to go to his cabin, unfortunately he was brought back out onto the deck after I went off watch and died shortly after. Should never have been there.
Anyway have been trying to figure out who you are, are agmh your initials? After all these years the memory is failing not that it was ever that great, names and faces have never been my strong point, can remember the names of some of the folks I sailed with but unfortunately far too many that I can't.
Cheers George
I joined the Valour as 3/O in KGV, Frank Frost OM Bob Simpson C/O Bob Goodall 2/O if I remember correctly. One boiler down to the Cape with shore guys still on board, there were still problems till I paid off. A week at anchor in the bay at Rio after discharge to do repairs, good for the deck crowd, no watches, not so good for those down the pit. The local 'Ladies of the Night', as one of my colleagues at the jetties in Grangemouth called them, did some good business on board. Loved the ship itself but was probably glad when it was time to go home, some great people on board but others not so great which made it hard going at times.
Were you on board when the pump-man died? I don't think so as I don't remember any cadets at that time. He had been out on deck with me setting lines but was seriously struggling, had just come back from sick leave, so I told him to go to his cabin, unfortunately he was brought back out onto the deck after I went off watch and died shortly after. Should never have been there.
Anyway have been trying to figure out who you are, are agmh your initials? After all these years the memory is failing not that it was ever that great, names and faces have never been my strong point, can remember the names of some of the folks I sailed with but unfortunately far too many that I can't.
Cheers George
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Should also add that it was the only ship I was sexually assaulted on. One of the 'ladies' must have thought I might be a potential customer standing in my boiler suit, looking suave and sophisticated, near the deck office mid-ships I was on cargo watch. She walked up to me appearing as she wanted to talk but instead reached inside the boiler suit and and fondled the crown jewels and seemed quite surprised that JT didn't rise to the occasion. She walked off to one of her pals appearing extremely miffed.
A life at sea you never knew what was coming next and never more so than on the Valour.
Cheers George
A life at sea you never knew what was coming next and never more so than on the Valour.
Cheers George
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Thanks Graham for the e-mails.
Paul Edwards relieved Bob Simpson and Trevor Bellis relieved Bob Goodall at RAK when we entered the Gulf to load our first cargo after dry-dock at KGV. The surname Hepburn was going through my head on seeing the initials.
The list brings back a few other faces too, thanks.
Cheers George
Paul Edwards relieved Bob Simpson and Trevor Bellis relieved Bob Goodall at RAK when we entered the Gulf to load our first cargo after dry-dock at KGV. The surname Hepburn was going through my head on seeing the initials.
The list brings back a few other faces too, thanks.
Cheers George
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Hi Guys,
Yes, it is Andrew Hepburn, your memories are better than mine! though I do remember Bob Goodall, he was a good 2/o taught me a lot. He and his wife even asked me to Dinner when we were both on same leave time. Quite a privilege for a lowly Nav. cadet.
I don't remember the pumpman dying, but do remember putting out Rat guards and having to stand deck watches with "Wheel spanners" to stop raids by the locals!
Great catching up and reviving old memories.
Hi Guys,
Yes, it is Andrew Hepburn, your memories are better than mine! though I do remember Bob Goodall, he was a good 2/o taught me a lot. He and his wife even asked me to Dinner when we were both on same leave time. Quite a privilege for a lowly Nav. cadet.
I don't remember the pumpman dying, but do remember putting out Rat guards and having to stand deck watches with "Wheel spanners" to stop raids by the locals!
Great catching up and reviving old memories.
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More or less right, It was a sled, somewhat like Donald Cambells "Bluebird" jet boat with a cross beam at the front with a foot on either side for stability. At the rear end of the centre beam was a metal scoop which shot a jet of water vertically in the air by which the following vessel astern could steer when in poor visibility.
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My father was on the Courage in 1966/67. He told me about the time heading south from Suez when the ship was at the back of the queue, all the fancy liners were first through the canal as they were supposedly faster. Top speed was tested and as the Courage overtook all the liners the black soot from her stack just absolutely covered all the polished shiny ships and their passengers
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