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Greetings Tom
Quite a bland statement "relieved of his duties" please give us a little more info
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(Thumb) I did 10 trips on the Cross and had some of the experiences mentioned, only once did we have any fighting that was when leaving Belfast after dry docking where all deck crew were signed on. If memory serves correct at Southampton half the stewards singed on were shirt lifters. Had a bit of trouble in Tahiti yep the guys got loaded in Quinns Bar and took on the locals. Had couple of deaths on previous voyages, and sailed with lot more women than guys one voyage. As to the engine room donkey men, greasers, and firemen returned voyage after voyage may have been due to Storeman Bill, as he ran a tight crew. never had to log to many of them if the lads did get a bit out of line Bill would cut their overtime after Chief Engineer okayed. She was a great ship and only scraped due to cost of upgrading to US invalid standards. she had no more crew problems than other ships, bear in mind she carried a lot of 10 pound millionaires who thought they were and treated crew as such.
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Never a bad moment on the SX. Great food; Norfolk Turkey, Roast Eynsbury Duckling with Thousand Isles Dressiing and slabs of Danish blue after leaving the stokehold at 8 bells.
The Cinema Lounge was a great hang out for us engineers in the early 60's. Guiness and cider being a good starter before graduating to Hotspur Rum and orange juice.
A great ship giving me the fondest of memories.
 

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Southern Cross/Calypso

I knew Southern Cross in Melbourne, and had many friends who had travelled aboard her... all had good words to say about her. I got to know her better in UK when she was sold by SSL to Ulysses Line, whose office was in London, and renamed Calypso. I was in charge of all her bookings for three years and travelled aboard her a few times, latterly on her final voyage as Calypso when I, my wife and 6 month old baby daughter sailed on her last Baltic Cruise. I found her verycomfortable and a good sea boat. During the time we were on the cruise, in August 1979, there were severe storms in the North Sea and a couple of vessels went down as aresult. It was also the time that Lord Mountbatten was murdered.

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To GWB, in addition to the impending SOLAS upgrades, the other significant reason given for her retirement/scrapping was that they were able to replace her with the more economical diesel ex-Olympia which also had bow thrusters despite being two years older than SX. SX required tugs to dock at Ft. Lauderdale.
 

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are there any members here who sailed on the southern cross from southampton in 1962.....i'm desoerate for some information...thanks in anticipation.
 

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/Hi Done 2 trips S/C.march 59 paid off in Liverpool august 59 then another 4 trips Feb 60 to Feb 61. 5 trips in forward dinning room as a winger ,couple of those trips as "locker man". the last trip as lounge stwd. about getting to the Female cabins one had to know where the master at arms were, mostly in the lounge pantry with a glass in their hand. After the first 2 trip was able to stay away from the $10 (pound) migrants so was able to make beer money.All in all was a good run and never much trouble on the ship few minor upset in some ports. I even met Marlon Brando in a beach side bar during Bastille week in Tahiti.
All good times but so long ago. Vern.

M.Brand making "mutiny on the Bounty"
 

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Southern Cross! not a mention here of Dominion Monarch - Shaw Savill generally had a reputation for the poor behaviour in NZ of their crews - with Blue Star not far behind. Port Line on the other hand were generally well regarded - it might have something to do with company men and men off the pool. Time away from home was not really an excuse as the MANZ run proved.I might add that I experienced similar crews on the Kiwi and Aussie coasts. My experience of Belfast men was no different to any others - good and bad but mostly good. In 22 years at sea I saw a lot of violence-most of it in my 8 years in the RNZN - so work that one out.
 

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I was on the Cross from May 59 to August 60. I was 3rd R/O with Harry Matthews as Chief and Captain Edmeads. I was paid off in Balboa with appendicitis, an operation was offered by the ships surgeon but I wasn't too keen on how steady his hand would be so opted for the American Army Hospital in the Canal Zone. Came home dbs on the Ceramic.
I do remember paying off one trip with the princely sum of 3d and a travel warrant, my parents weren't to impressed with my financial affairs!
From her I did 14 months on a 1939 Shell tanker but then thats another story!
 

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Tales I heard 1959-62 included a claim that she once sailed from Oz with over 1000 female passengers under 25. I was told that with seven passenger decks , there was an unwritten rule about which deck deck officers and cadets socialised, so that they did not encounter each other in difficult situations. This is only gossip that I picked up on Athenic so may not be true. Very different situation there with only 70-80 passngers all middle aged or older. There were occasions when ladies got the worse for cheap gin and we always pointed out that Captaion Heywood would not allow cadets to visit passenger cabins. We were not allowed to drink either but kind stewards would top up our cokes with rum
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I sailed on the rich old widow ships as an apprentice/4th/3rd/2nd - Atehnic & Gothic. I also sailed on the SX 1965 as 5th mate / senior apprentice. You had better believe about the girls under 25 going to visit the old country. I know, I was there, and I indulged !!!!!
 

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I sailed on the Southern Cross from Trinidad to Liverpool in 1960 - as a 7year old kid! It was me, 2 older brothers and aunt, and for 2 days we had a BALL. Then my brother got a spot on his forehead, the ship's doc came and said: chicken pox - quarantine! We spent the next 8 days locked away at the very back of the ship - for us 3 kids it was torture, and I'm sure our aunt didn't love it either! After three days the spot went away but they still wouldn't let us out!
 

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Tales I heard 1959-62 included a claim that she once sailed from Oz with over 1000 female passengers under 25. I was told that with seven passenger decks , there was an unwritten rule about which deck deck officers and cadets socialised, so that they did not encounter each other in difficult situations. This is only gossip that I picked up on Athenic so may not be true. Very different situation there with only 70-80 passngers all middle aged or older. There were occasions when ladies got the worse for cheap gin and we always pointed out that Captaion Heywood would not allow cadets to visit passenger cabins. We were not allowed to drink either but kind stewards would top up our cokes with rum
Hi John, I note you mention the " Athenic " I was aboard her as AB 60/61,as I remember a happy ship.What were you aboard her . I hope you are well. John White
 

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Hi John, I note you mention the " Athenic " I was aboard her as AB 60/61,as I remember a happy ship.What were you aboard her . I hope you are well. John White
Theres a memory the old Athenic I joined her in Auckland with my younger brother for her last voyage from New Zealand we took her to the east coast of America up to Montreal then back to Taiwan to the breakers yard ,T bone steaks all the way sadly enough I was the last man to steer her to her final berth we left Kiwi in july 1969 if my memory serves me right , in fact I wrote a poem about her final voyage best regards Dave .
 

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I sailed on the rich old widow ships as an apprentice/4th/3rd/2nd - Atehnic & Gothic. I also sailed on the SX 1965 as 5th mate / senior apprentice. You had better believe about the girls under 25 going to visit the old country. I know, I was there, and I indulged !!!!!
Talk about a contradiction. With a name like "Dick Palmer" what are we supposed to think? (EEK) (Thumb)
 

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Theres a memory the old Athenic I joined her in Auckland with my younger brother for her last voyage from New Zealand we took her to the east coast of America up to Montreal then back to Taiwan to the breakers yard ,T bone steaks all the way sadly enough I was the last man to steer her to her final berth we left Kiwi in july 1969 if my memory serves me right , in fact I wrote a poem about her final voyage best regards Dave .
Thank you for taking the time to reply to me Dave.
Keep happy keep well.
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Hi John,
I was one of the three cadets. Were you the AB who used to lift himself off the deck with one arm then lift a bucket of water with a foot ? Impressed lady passengers ! I am sure you are not the AB who fell into the smokeroom while we were alongside in Panama. It was about midnight and he had blood pouring from his head because , he said, he fell out of his bunk. I got the drunken Irish doctor to sew him up. Captain Heywood would not allow crew lady visitors and one night on the Kiwi coast , the third mate made me go to the crew accomadation and ask all the party ladies to go ashore. The lads were kind enough to take their ladies without a complaint. Lots of memories of the ship, including picking up an AB who had fallen on a sugar boat. Or the night that the third mate was so drunk he passed out across the chart table while we off Aruba with ships everywhere,
great days
hope you keep well
John
 
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