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T.S.Arethusa

hello Chatham Lass,...Lovely to see a post from somebody who remembers my old ship ( Jan.1955 to May, 1956). In 1992, whilst on a holiday in the U.K. with my wife, I went back to Upnor, but without 'Arethusa' being there, the little riverside hamlet just wasn't the same. At that time, the figurehead was still there (facing the River Medway, outside the swimming baths). Forgive me when I say this (my wife did), but her exposed breast still looked as magnificent as it did when first I saw it as an impressionable 14 year old all those years ago(Wave)Unfortunately I have a no independent memory of your dear grandmother at that time, but she may remember the two Cooks that were there in my time. Their names were Stan Whitnall and 'Mo' Pavey. Even now, I can still remember 'Mo' (who, when off-duty, enjoyed the occasional ale in the 'Ship Inn'), walking about the galley singing to himself a very old song called 'Ramona'. Funny how these sort of things stay in ones memory. Anyway, if you mention those names to your Nan, she may well remember them. I do, of course, remember Petra, who in my time was just a little girl. I believe that she grew up to be a very nice person like her mother ( and her father if it comes to that). I am happy to have responded to your thread, but only wish I could have been of more assistance to you....best regards, Roger.
 
Who can forget those cullinary delights that was dished out by the Galley Staff in those days. How about "UNOX" spam fritters, sausage meat for sunday breakfast(Fried Eggs for the weekly top mess on Sunday's) and I still love spam fritters to this day but unfortunately being on a bit of a fat free diet they're OUT!. Does anyone ever re-call having a bad stomach in those days, I certainly don't. Apart from the "Asian Flu" (Which I blagged for a fortnight in RNH Chatham) saga I don't ever recall being ill on the "ARE'".
 
Hi Tony...After the post from Chatham Lass the other day and now your latest offering it's good to see this thread active again. Yes, mate, I well remember the 'Unox' fritters and, like you, I loved 'em. Also recall having a passion for the 'chickenettes', don't think there was much chicken in them but they always seemed good to me. I didn't mind the fishcakes either. There always seemed to be lots of baked beans in our diet. I suppose the food was, perhaps, a bit basic by today's standards, but I don't ever recall being hungry. Your mention of eggs on Sunday for the top mess of the week is something I don't remember. I do, however, recall that during the short period I was Leading Boy of Mess 5 (or was it 7, not sure anymore), we were judged top mess after the Saturday morning scrub and shine. Our reward was a free 3d ice cream from the ship's tuck shop. While I think of it, did you ever try the quick route from the galley down to the mess deck vide the food lift ? Bit of a tight squeeze, but it did amuse us for a while (just as long as you weren't caught, if you were, look out !).....best regards, Roger.
 
Morning Rog' no I never did pull the Galley boy slot. I think that during my Maintainance term I pulled Swimming Bath Boy, Sick Berth Boy, Devitt House Boy, laundry Boy all of which were pretty cushy really. I'm not too sure how the top mess points came about did we have daily inspections or once a week??. I was on 21 Mess and not to put a too finer point on it we were top mess quite often. I wonder how many "Brillo Pads and emery cloth we went through in those days.
 
Hello again Tony....Your memory for the finer details never ceases to amaze me. I thought I was good, but you, mate, are in a class of your own......T'was my lot to land the Galley Boy job on two seperate occasions (for durations of a week at a time, if memory serves). One requirement of that job I do recall was that we had to wear wooden clogs on our feet whilst working in the galley. They used to make a terrible racket, but you did get used to them. I found it easier if I shuffled along rather than try to lift my feet. I must have looked like a train(Jester). The Dutch have a lot to answer for, ha! ha!....The cooks, Stan and Mo' were pretty good to us but it wasn't as cushy as some of the choice jobs you landed. What on earth did you 'maintain' up at Devitt House? - not the Sister I hope! Some other maintenance duties I performed, were 'Maintenance Staff Mess' and Quartermaster (standing in that little office at the head of the gangway, forever mindful of ones responsibility for ringing the bell and 'dipping' the flag to navy ships, etc. Also responsible for the Scran-bag, do you remember that?). Did you ever volunteer for Retard Party during leave times? Anyway, I'll leave it there for now, while I go away and try to think of other Are' memories.........cheers, Roger.
 
Hi Roger, I do hope you are a bit warmer there than we are here. I think Roger once you do start to remember those old days, little bits of small detail will begin to come back especially if your one on one with someone else. I do have quite good memories of my time on board the TS Arethusa. I have mentioned in other posts that I personally never had any problems during my time and I suppose it would be safe to say that I enjoyed my time in Her, I do mean the "Arethusa" and not the Sister. I wasn't particularly clever but muddled along in my own way and did most things that one was expected to do. Devitt House Boy was simillar to Sick Bay Boy, just a cleaner really. All I can remember about Sister was Her magnificent chest. When discharged from RNH Chatham after the "Asian Flu" I did spend a couple of days up there(Devitt House) before going back to the ship. I don't recall Her name but I do recall Her coming in to bedroom where I was berthed more or less to say goodnight and see if I was ok and Her leaning over me and that chest will remain in my memory for eternity. But of course any response from me would have been fairly muted as I was then only just beginning to feel the stirrings. Whether or not I will be chastised by the MODS for this but Devitt House was the venue for my very first "One off the Wrist" if you know what I mean. Wouldn't that be a good subject for a new thread "Where did You have Your first "One off the Wrist". I had my first full sexperiment about 18 months later in the pleasuredome of Lisbon!. Hey I am digressing here. Back to the plot.
I have had discussions with Old Boys that didn't have such a good time in the "ARE" and they don't hold Her with the same fondness, for want of a better word than I do and no doubt many others as well. Some even claiming brutallity off which I personally never experienced during my years or even witnessed. So there we are Roger. The demise of establishments like the TS Arethusa and others like Her has added to the lack of respect and the moronic behaviour of some of todays youth.
 
Hi Tony,.....To answer your question re the weather here in Sydney at the moment. There's no snow, but it is raining and we're told it will stay the same until Saturday next. Your comments re your youthful self-indulgence at Devitt House whilst aroused by Sister, that vision of loveliness, the original Madonna with the big 'boobies', had me giggling. To be honest though, I found that those glasses she wore with the ultra-thick lens (not unlike the bottom of a bottle) were rather off-putting. Not really to my taste, but to each his own I suppose. It did strike me that, perhaps, you were a late starter in that particular nocturnal activity. If my memory serves, after lights out each night, the hammock bars on the Are' were positively vibrating. Maybe you were too busy to notice(Jester).....Like you, whilst on the Are', my happy memories far outweighed the bad. I have been in touch with Ian Walker (also a SN member), who was on the old girl at the same time as me, and he shares the same view. It was tough at times, but most of us were hardy little bu---rs weren't we? so I'm sure that for most it was a positive experience. One other thing I remember. Each Sunday when we were granted a few hours shore leave, I and a couple of mates would hasten up the hill to a little shop in Chattendene, where we would purchase a packet of 20 Cigs and spend the afternoon wandering aimlessly round Hoo, trying to smoke ourselves to death. The silly things we do when young, but we, of course, thought we were being so adult. Good to exchange this with you, I must try and remember more for another time............cheers, mate, Roger.
 
G'day Roger,
So that was why the hammock rails vibrated. Yes I too remember the Post Office They must have made a fortune up there on "Arethusa" Boys weekly 2/6d. Mine would go on a half ounce of Golden Virginia, a packet of papers and a box of matches leaving about tuppence change and I never got caught Lugging. Do You remember Rodge' on joining, after getting kitted out we had to parcel up our civvies and traipse up to the P'Office and post the parcel home.
Now on the subject of ****, I remember onetime when my Uncle and Aunt came down on visiting day and took me into Chatham to the pictures for the afternoon. At the interlude my Uncle gave me a quid to get some ice creams but with that quid I also bought 20 Senior Service unbeknown'st to Him. I finally owned up to that to my Aunt (my Uncle having already passed away) in 1992. It's great chatting to You Rodger about those days. Cheers for now.
 
Thanks for that picture in my head Dad! Scarred for life now!
Serously though, tis nice to hear you guys chat about the early days...
 
T.S. Arethusa

Hello Tony (Old Strawb)....Happy New Year Mate! Your young bloke's got a sense of humour, Arethusa trained? well once removed ay? The reason I contact, apart from wishing you well is just this. Earlier tonight I was viewing the Gallery and came across a few 'pics' you had put on site. I then realised that you and I do have a more tangible connection. You little nozzer squirt! you were but a few months behind me, but I now realise that we had a common connection. I didn't realise it by name alone, but having seen his picture I remember well your mate Barry Dimmock. I think he was Top/Port or QD/Pt, but anyway a quite sort of a guy but very switched on. A nice bloke anyway. He must have been on the Are' for more then two years. Just thought I'd mention it. Do you still have contact with him? As for young Strawb if your reading this, respect your father O.K. He's ex-Are and as a kid he was a tough little b----r, we all were. So, upset him, and I'll be round O.K.(Smoke) ..........Roger
 
Hi Roger, great to hear from You and likewise to You for your greetings. Not sure what this year will bring will it be better than last year? are they ever better than the previous year that remains to be seen but as long as good health holds out that's the most important thing.
Barrie Dimmock, he had already left the "Are" before I joined but I met him on joining my first ship RFA Tidereach April 1958. I think Tidereach held about eight Ex Arethusa boys when I joined her. So I guess I sailed with him for about a year. After that on leaving Tidereach I guess I only saw him once and that was in Mombasa, he was in RFA Retainer and I was in RFA Resurgent.
It was only last year that he popped up on the Arethusa section of the Delphi Forums so I was able to make contact with him by phone. We had a longish chat but that was it really with no further contact. He did also introduce himself on Shipsnostalgia, so I responded but again that was it, no further response. He lives in Plymouth, he did however invite me to come down but not being a driver, that option was not considered. So there we are Roger still at least we know he still lives but I guess many have now gone. I did lose a good friend of mine a few years ago also an Ex "Are" boy and future work colleague, all very sad really as there was a family only funeral so I did feel a bit cheated out saying cheerio to an old Mate. Cheers Roger.


New Arethusa website www.arethusaoldboys.com
 
I too have happy memories of Upnor and the Arethusa, but from a slightly different perspective. My father was Mr Weightman, who no doubt many of you will remember and of course we lived in the flat over the swimming baths. I made a nostalgia trip to Upnor earlier today for the first time in many years and was pleased to see all the alterations around the baths, the new buildings etc, so obviously the work of the 'Arry' still goes on, albeit in a somewhat different way. Although the figurehead has a shelter over her and a canvas cover over her upper part, she appears to be in a very sorry state. My father would have been horrified to see her like this. However, I cannot help thinking that Upnor will never seem the same without the old ship lying to her moorings in the river
 
Mr. Weightman

Hi Bryn,
Nice to hear from you. Yes, of course, I remember your father well. 'Willie', as he was affectionately known during my time on the Are'
('55/'56), was the Divisional Officer for Quarterdeck/Port and taught in the subject of Science. At the time, science was a subject I was not particularly fond of, however, I hasten to add that this lack of interest was no reflection on your father's ability to teach. In fact, by his manner of teaching he was able to instill in me an increased interest in the subject and his classes were never boring.

I remember him as a very tall man, although quite slim. I don't think he suffered fools gladly, but nevertheless was often very amusing. I remember him once telling us that as a younger man people often remarked about his likeness to the American actor, Ray Bolger, a song and dance man who, amongst many other roles, played the part of the Scarecrow in the 'Wizard of Oz". Since that time whenever I see a picture of Ray Bolger (which nowadays isn't often) I'm reminded of your father who did indeed bear a strong resemblance.

I was sad to learn that although a canopy has been placed over the old figurehead (the fallen madonna with the big boobies), she was in need of some TLC when you saw her recently. I'm surprised that such neglect has been allowed to occur. I last visited Upnor in the 1990's and felt much the same as you the other day. With Arethusa gone the place seemed empty. I've never been back.

Thanks for posting, Bryn.

Best regards, Roger.
 
Just as a Heads Up. The Peking AKA "TS Arethusa" is due to leave the South Street Seaport Museum NY on Her way back to Her place of Birth Hamburg. According to the AOBA news letter, She will leaving NY sometime in May 2012. She will be carried on the back of a Heavy Transporter Vessel.
 
figurehead

Hi Roger,
Good to hear from you. My sister, Gwyneth, who lived at Upnor with our parents for far longer than I did, and now lives in France, tells me that our father did a lot of maintenance work on the figurehead before he died and he found that a lot of the wood in the back had been replaced by concrete. She was under the impression that there was a group dedicated to restoring the figurehead to it's former glory. Would be nice to hear from them and to hear what is actually happening. If I lived nearer and was a few years younger I would have loved to have become involved as I think it very sad to see the once proud 'Miss Arethusa' looking so dilapidated.

Best regards,

Bryn
 
She will be the centre piece at the Hamburg Maritime Museum.
 
Arethusa souvenirs

I was looking at a website called Zazzle earlier and was surprised to see a lot of Arethusa teeshirts and mugs on sale. They are designed by a company called windsorarts and have a dozen or so tees with a variety of pictures of her, frozen in, when the Medway froze over, painting ship, the figurehead, even some of the Glenstrathalan. I was quite impressed and think I might treat myself. The mugs too looked good.
 
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